the galah Posted yesterday at 12:05 AM Posted yesterday at 12:05 AM (edited) anyone watching that must have thought it was a shocker. jay bee hill charging the tapes and starting about 10m in front of the others off the front line. So with the advantage of 10m and a fast moving start it ended about 25m in front after 50m. If your having a bet,watching another horse get such an unfair advantage seems quite unfair and silly. and they want people to bet on those races how the starter didn't see what happened or did see it and allowed it was rather ridiculous. Edited yesterday at 12:06 AM by the galah 1 1 Quote
WOLF Posted yesterday at 12:29 AM Posted yesterday at 12:29 AM Agree with above. “They want people to bet on these races” but they are not , if they go by the tote figures.Abysmal. Treble on race 1 got to 5k + but that is another story for another day?? Quote
mikeynz Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM I will say for what's it's worth, some of those maiden trots do struggle tote pool wise, would doubt too many big bets on fixed odds either, just a lottery. 1 Quote
mikeynz Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM Probably find too that the afternoon turnovers will pick up once all the churchgoers have finished their Sunday lunches lol. 1 Quote
Brodie Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Tote pools are just not worth the effort for any serious punter that wants to win! Industry is in serious trouble with the risk averse policy that the TAB Bookies have adopted. Just not going to work but then again it is all about toiled to them rather than turnover and profit. Unfortunately their policy has a bigger negative flow on for attracting any new owners and punters to harness racing. Gammalite keeps saying that it is wealthy men subsidising harness racing in several states in Oz. There is no one in NZ that is stupid enough to fund TAB shortfall so if they don’t change their policy then things will be dire. 1 Quote
mikeynz Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Not everyone is a serious punter, Trifectas, First 4s, Quaddies Doubles are all tote, naturally for win and place, top3, 4 you would want fixed but when there is plenty of depth in field totes still well supported, always will be, many don't worry. Harness will get better turnovers when they get better fields, will that ever happen, that's the big question. Quote
Nowornever Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 15 hours ago, mikeynz said: Harness will get better turnovers when they get better fields Grass tracks starting in a month. I am getting excited 😁 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 19 hours ago, Brodie said: Unfortunately their policy has a bigger negative flow on for attracting any new owners and punters to harness racing. Why? Stakes are better than ever. Owners don't need to worry as much about winning on the punt. Quote
Brodie Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Why? Stakes are better than ever. Owners don't need to worry as much about winning on the punt. They lose the promotion of racing by losing those that are the bigger punters. No one races a horse for the stake money as an investment. The returns are just not there nowadays that is why syndicates are increasing in numbers. Turnover increase and profit would be greater if they actually like Bookies should. Put up the odds. Take the wager and make the profit from the increased turnover. When they take a wager and slash the fixed odds all they are doing is restricting turnover greatly as they don’t get anyone wagering on that horse again in sufficient amounts. Hugely detrimental to the industry as serious punters are lost from punting and racing horses. 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Brodie said: Turnover increase and profit would be greater if they actually like Bookies should. Put up the odds. Take the wager and make the profit from the increased turnover. Right so you'd be happy to lose a million a year as long as you could have big bets? Quote
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