Here come the Nutters! Becks Nairn. Thanks Winnie.

[Chief Stipe]

 

 

[Chief Stipe]

There you are @curious and @Thomass you have a haveer girl for your crusade.

[curious]

15 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

There you are @curious and @Thomass you have a haveer girl for your crusade.

She does raise a few pertinent points in there though. E.g., the attempted muzzling of licence holders, which we've seen recent evidence of, and the simplicity of some welfare monitoring which would potentially allay (or otherwise) negative public perceptions.

Edited 19 hours ago by curious

[TAB For Ever]

I wondered where Duncan Garner had gone .

But I wasted 20 mins of my day listening to this attention seeking loser of a young woman who has decided to turn on the Horse Industry [ especially Harness] cos she obviously unable to take up and earn a living from her passion she developed as a kid !

Obviously she adored horses and developed an interest in re-homing horses. The idea of a charitable trust to fund her interest/passion had appeal ....but she obviously not a team player ,obviously ,cos others never really knew what they were doing ....cos she has been dedicated ,educated , invested in and worked with world class people ....certainly over-intoxicated in her own exuberance but had her nose put out of place when she couldnt get her own way and turned on HRNZ when they chose the HERO program as their official rehomer. This has festered away !

Most of her horrific dramatic story is nearly 3 yrs old...the terrible Donegal case in Kaikoura ,from which she seems to be seething from being pushed aside by the Police,Vets and Govt agencies .

She admits to getting a lot of help ,a lot of funding[expected more] etc etc but now seeking revenge since her 3 page Document and informal chat with a vet friend was ignored 3 years ago....obviously she hasnt reconciled and got back on the horse !

Duncan let her talk...then said.....[sounds like widespread corruption ]....put the words into her mouth. Click bait !

What she talking about are isolated , exceptions ,and policies and conventional wisdom that has been developed over the years.More and more checks and balances have been introduced into the Industry over the year , but license holders etc need to play their role and  play by the rules and look after the animals .She said the Kaikoura breeder was a troubled person ,ditto her earlier example when a family hit by tragedy ! Exceptions !

Most  horses ,in my experience are treated extremely well  definitely when racing, usually get happily rehomed when retired ,sadly some go to the dogs !

 

Edited 16 hours ago by TAB For Ever
typo

[Special Agent]

Yes, she definitely likes to be the centre of attention, and not cast aside for better options.  More than a few comments don't add up.  What was wrong with the best three from Kaikoura ending up in training?  If she selected the most appropriate rehomers at the trainers properties how good is she at her job to still have to put down 30% of those horses as finally deemed unsuitable?

As she went on it was clear she'd forgotten her earlier comments with contradictions filtering in.  I'm guessing most viewers would have switched off part way through.  She was well off the mark with numbers she was quoting and authority practices re traceability etc.

I hope she isn't related to the harness trainer of the same name.

I think she may have saturated her brain with a bit much Silent Witness in her formative years as she'd have to be the only Horse Post Mortem Technician on the latest Census.  Any sanity questions for me were answered quite early in the interview when she explained how one of her horse related injuries was a blow to the head.

 

[Special Agent]

Did anyone else read the article which I don't think was from the UK, rather Scandanavia or Europe, about the mother who donated her daughter's pony to the zoo to feed the lions?  That particular animal park sourced various horse meat for the big cats via donations through public means.

I think slow ones in Singapore used to feed the lions and tigers in their zoo.

When you think about it, Orana Park could be a good avenue for unwanted, old or injured South Island horses, and Wellington and Auckland zoos have a whole North Island to supply food for a lot of hungry mouths.

[hesi]

7 hours ago, TAB For Ever said:

I wondered where Duncan Garner had gone .

But I wasted 20 mins of my day listening to this attention seeking loser of a young woman who has decided to turn on the Horse Industry [ especially Harness] cos she obviously unable to take up and earn a living from her passion she developed as a kid !

Obviously she adored horses and developed an interest in re-homing horses. The idea of a charitable trust to fund her interest/passion had appeal ....but she obviously not a team player ,obviously ,cos others never really knew what they were doing ....cos she has been dedicated ,educated , invested in and worked with world class people ....certainly over-intoxicated in her own exuberance but had her nose put out of place when she couldnt get her own way and turned on HRNZ when they chose the HERO program as their official rehomer. This has festered away !

Most of her horrific dramatic story is nearly 3 yrs old...the terrible Donegal case in Kaikoura ,from which she seems to be seething from being pushed aside by the Police,Vets and Govt agencies .

She admits to getting a lot of help ,a lot of funding[expected more] etc etc but now seeking revenge since her 3 page Document and informal chat with a vet friend was ignored 3 years ago....obviously she hasnt reconciled and got back on the horse !

Duncan let her talk...then said.....[sounds like widespread corruption ]....put the words into her mouth. Click bait !

What she talking about are isolated , exceptions ,and policies and conventional wisdom that has been developed over the years.More and more checks and balances have been introduced into the Industry over the year , but license holders etc need to play their role and  play by the rules and look after the animals .She said the Kaikoura breeder was a troubled person ,ditto her earlier example when a family hit by tragedy ! Exceptions !

Most  horses ,in my experience are treated extremely well  definitely when racing, usually get happily rehomed when retired ,sadly some go to the dogs !

 

Duncan Garner has been doing this podcast for just over 2 years now.  Very opinionated and you will note in the interview, when he could get a word in lol, all he really wanted an answer on, was how many horses were going to petfood each year.

Irresponsible journalism to increase his numbers

[hesi]

7 hours ago, Special Agent said:

Yes, she definitely likes to be the centre of attention, and not cast aside for better options.  More than a few comments don't add up.  What was wrong with the best three from Kaikoura ending up in training?  If she selected the most appropriate rehomers at the trainers properties how good is she at her job to still have to put down 30% of those horses as finally deemed unsuitable?

As she went on it was clear she'd forgotten her earlier comments with contradictions filtering in.  I'm guessing most viewers would have switched off part way through.  She was well off the mark with numbers she was quoting and authority practices re traceability etc.

I hope she isn't related to the harness trainer of the same name.

I think she may have saturated her brain with a bit much Silent Witness in her formative years as she'd have to be the only Horse Post Mortem Technician on the latest Census.  Any sanity questions for me were answered quite early in the interview when she explained how one of her horse related injuries was a blow to the head.

 

Colourful woman if you check her background.  Taxidermist for 18 years, does horse dissection, but no formal veterinary or pathology qualifications, which has been raised as a concern in the past

[Huey]

Bury your heads all you like the industry is in a fight for its future!

Many will get exactly what they deserve!

[Nowornever]

She will try to stop people owning cats and dogs next because she heard one person out 5 million abused their pet. 

The real cruelty is her weaponizing a couple of sad cases into a crusade against an entire industry.

 

[Chief Stipe]

38 minutes ago, Nowornever said:

She will try to stop people owning cats and dogs next because she heard one person out 5 million abused their pet. 

Most pet dog owners do i.e. more than one in 5 million.

38 minutes ago, Nowornever said:

The real cruelty is her weaponizing a couple of sad cases into a crusade against an entire industry.

Unfortunately some of the Industry's own supposed supporters are doing it too.  For what purpose I cannot fathom other than they like digging pellets out of their feet.

[Chief Stipe]

2 hours ago, Huey said:

Bury your heads all you like the industry is in a fight for its future!

Some of us wish you would bury your head.  Your cynicism and negativity aren't doing much to change things!