hesi Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Update on Avondale, Waikato Greenfields, Hastings, Awapuni and Trentham Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Well as some of us with eyes wide open have been saying for some time the Champagne Turf is more like a flat bottle of Lion Red opened a week ago. 1 Quote
curious Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Well as some of us with eyes wide open have been saying for some time the Champagne Turf is more like a flat bottle of Lion Red opened a week ago. That's true, though the track itself isn't too bad imo. Quote
Huey Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Guerin is such a patsy, it's that simple clubs just up & sell for the betterment of the industry. 1 Quote
curious Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Huey said: Guerin is such a patsy, it's that simple clubs just up & sell for the betterment of the industry. Couldn't agree more. He tells Ballesty what he wants to hear and gets that. No hard questions from the other side of the argument or exploring the detail of what Ballesty raised. Not really a lot of use to anybody, least of all the industry as a whole. Edited September 15 by curious 1 Quote
Huey Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Foal crop will never recover, once they starting chopping the provincial clubs at the knees it was the beginning of the end. I know so many people who like myself will likely never breed another. 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 16 Posted September 16 10 hours ago, curious said: That's true, though the track itself isn't too bad imo. Really? Based on what? The rock hard shute? The inconsistent irrigation? Variable footing all round. Quote
curious Posted September 16 Posted September 16 7 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Really? Based on what? The rock hard shute? The inconsistent irrigation? Variable footing all round. Don't you think those issues could at least be mitigated with a new contemporary irrigation system (though let's see if they've managed to get that right at Riccarton or not), and an appropriate aeration and renovation programme? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 16 Posted September 16 55 minutes ago, curious said: Don't you think those issues could at least be mitigated with a new contemporary irrigation system (though let's see if they've managed to get that right at Riccarton or not), and an appropriate aeration and renovation programme? They don't even have enough money to fix the electronic timing. No doubt the soil structure is stuffed as well. Quote
curious Posted September 16 Posted September 16 42 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: They don't even have enough money to fix the electronic timing. No doubt the soil structure is stuffed as well. Yet they have the money to keep the now G2 Thorndon Mile stake at $500,000! 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 16 Posted September 16 3 hours ago, curious said: Yet they have the money to keep the now G2 Thorndon Mile stake at $500,000! How much did the Club contribute to that? 1 Quote
Newmarket Posted September 17 Posted September 17 Mick just sucks up to the bigwigs…..i wish he would not comment, his head is so far up his arse its amazing he can breathe… 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 17 Posted September 17 40 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Mick just sucks up to the bigwigs…..i wish he would not comment, his head is so far up his arse its amazing he can breathe… That is a well thought out comment by you @Newmarket. Perhaps by your standards you should apply for his job. Quote
curious Posted September 17 Posted September 17 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: How much did the Club contribute to that? 10k Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 17 Posted September 17 1 hour ago, curious said: 10k Well $10k wouldn't fix the public toilets let alone the electronic race timing. Trentham was doomed they stopped being a training centre. Quote
curious Posted September 17 Posted September 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Well $10k wouldn't fix the public toilets let alone the electronic race timing. Trentham was doomed they stopped being a training centre. But NZTR found 90k to enhance the usual G! 400k for that race. Wouldn't that be better spent on the toilets and possibly the timing system? I fail to see why they continue to throw money at stakes at the expense of infrastructure. There is simply no case for it. The only viable training centre in the country might be Cambridge? The rest all lose money from that. Edited September 17 by curious 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 17 Posted September 17 14 minutes ago, curious said: The only viable training centre in the country might be Cambridge? The rest all lose money from that. You miss the point. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 17 Posted September 17 @curious does Foxton or Rangiora still have Electronic timing? Quote
Freda Posted September 17 Posted September 17 11 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: @curious does Foxton or Rangiora still have Electronic timing? I would imagine Rangiora does, as it holds harness meetings. 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 17 Posted September 17 2 hours ago, Freda said: I would imagine Rangiora does, as it holds harness meetings. Yet Trentham "the Premier Champagne Turf" can't get this basic but essential part of modern racing correct. You could argue that NZTR should fix it buy why bail out what is potentially a sink hole for cash? Quote
Brodie Posted September 17 Posted September 17 Havent wagered on a galloping race in NZ for decades and so dont follow what is going on with thoroughbred racing! However from what Mr Ballesty was saying, the once great thoroughbred industry is even more stuffed than harness? So many issues and yet no one fixing them and yet they get all this Entain money and wasting it! Where js this great Committee they were forming to sort things out? Months down the track and nothing!! 1 Quote
Freda Posted September 17 Posted September 17 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Havent wagered on a galloping race in NZ for decades and so dont follow what is going on with thoroughbred racing! However from what Mr Ballesty was saying, the once great thoroughbred industry is even more stuffed than harness? So many issues and yet no one fixing them and yet they get all this Entain money and wasting it! Where js this great Committee they were forming to sort things out? Months down the track and nothing!! Yes, had been wondering about that. Quote
curious Posted September 17 Posted September 17 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Where js this great Committee they were forming to sort things out? Months down the track and nothing!! Do you mean the Vela advisory committee? That is advisory to TABNZ. Nothing to do with NZTR if that's what you mean. Quote
Freda Posted September 17 Posted September 17 57 minutes ago, curious said: Do you mean the Vela advisory committee? That is advisory to TABNZ. Nothing to do with NZTR if that's what you mean. I'd forgotten that....but why co-opt Chris Waller on to it if it is for TAB advisory purposes...? Quote
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