Melbourne Cup …. What Do Ya Think?

[Shad]

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

You have never seen a more lucky run on the rails in a Melbourne cup, and probably never see in future cups either. Amazing that with the fading runners coming back on the winner, it negotiated around them. 
 

The plunge grey did little, the overseas raiders are not ruling like they once did. 
 

Yes very valid point, they certainly parted like the red sea, reminded me a bit of Damask Rose winning the big race in Auckland, had to be good and was, many jockeys left the rail wide open, they said it was a great ride, but left with little options from the back, never went around a horse.

[billy connolly]

2 hours ago, Newmarket said:

You have never seen a more lucky run on the rails in a Melbourne cup, and probably never see in future cups either. Amazing that with the fading runners coming back on the winner, it negotiated around them. 

That is the key, squire. Few jockeys ride for luck on a favorite, especially in a Melbourne Cup.

Kingston Town was a near champion who got beat cause the jockey mistook the clock tower for the 800 metre mark ! 

Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet.

[hesi]

We had 2 potential staying 4 year olds in Derby winner Willydoit, whose 7th dam was Cuddle and Oaks winner Leica Lucy.  But the new part owners of both horses chose to race both horses only up to 1600m, Willydoit, after a 4th in the Australian Derby.

So we do still appear able to breed top class stayers.  Derryn the sire of Leica Lucy a very moderately priced $5K fee and Tarzino (sire of Willydoit), himself a winner of the Victoria Derby, still moderately priced at $25K, and indeed sire of the 5th place getter in yesterday's cup, in Torranzino

[Newmarket]

10 hours ago, Shad said:

Yes very valid point, they certainly parted like the red sea, reminded me a bit of Damask Rose winning the big race in Auckland, had to be good and was, many jockeys left the rail wide open, they said it was a great ride, but left with little options from the back, never went around a horse.

Ouch…. Dont mention Damansk Rose, touchy subject for a certain person😆

[Chief Stipe]

13 hours ago, Newmarket said:

You have never seen a more lucky run on the rails in a Melbourne cup, and probably never see in future cups either. Amazing that with the fading runners coming back on the winner, it negotiated around them. 

You really are a plonker.  First you bag the horse AND Jockey and after the race you say it was a lucky run.

Jamie placed the horse perfectly and put it to sleep until the right time.  Pushed through the gaps when needed and the horse did the rest.

Not much luck at all.  As you should know, but obviously don't, over 3200m at Flemington the gaps will happen as horses tire up a very long straight.  Just requires a patient calm rider of the calibre of Jamie Melham to ride through them.

[Newmarket]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

You really are a plonker.  First you bag the horse AND Jockey and after the race you say it was a lucky run.

Jamie placed the horse perfectly and put it to sleep until the right time.  Pushed through the gaps when needed and the horse did the rest.

Not much luck at all.  As you should know, but obviously don't, over 3200m at Flemington the gaps will happen as horses tire up a very long straight.  Just requires a patient calm rider of the calibre of Jamie Melham to ride through them.

Gee you get upset….

After seeing the overhead replays  a few times, you would have to say the horse was lucky to have an uninterrupted run on the inside, forget the horse or jockey. 
 

Maybe post a clip of other Melbourne cup winners that you think are similar….you will struggle

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

Gee you get upset….

Sorry to shatter you delusion but I'm not upset.  It is actually amusing reading the crap you write albeit now becoming repetitive.

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

After seeing the overhead replays  a few times, you would have to say the horse was lucky to have an uninterrupted run on the inside, forget the horse or jockey.

The gaps were always going to come.  They always do over 3200m and it is easier to push past a tiring horse.  Contrary to what some amateur punters think, such as yourself, a Jockey on a tiring horse will often move over for one full of running.  Of course the difference is it was 3200m NOT a sprint.  Also tiring horses will drift off the rail.

Jamie rode the perfect patient race especially when you read the real hard luck stories from the other Jockey's where their charges clipped heels, didn't settle, got caught 3 wide etc.  

Also another factor was when Land Legend surged to the lead and upper the tempo at the halfway point which made some gaps in the field and made a staying test.

Jamie being the cool calm experienced Jockey she is didn't panic.  She got the horse to settle beautifully, took the shortest route home and pushed the go button at the right time.

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

Maybe post a clip of other Melbourne cup winners that you think are similar….you will struggle

I wouldn't struggle but quite frankly educating you would do a disservice to the NZ Racing industry as they need your regular valuable monetary contribution.

[curious]

18 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

 The gaps were always going to come.  They always do over 3200m and it is easier to push past a tiring horse.  Contrary to what some amateur punters think, such as yourself, a Jockey on a tiring horse will often move over for one full of running.  Of course the difference is it was 3200m NOT a sprint.  Also tiring horses  

She did have a slight advantage on the gap opening up. “I said, ‘Move over Ben, I’m coming through!’”

Edited 17 hours ago by curious

[Chief Stipe]

38 minutes ago, curious said:

She did have a slight advantage on the gap opening up. “I said, ‘Move over Ben, I’m coming through!’”

Yeah but his horse was stuffed and I imagine they have a joint bank account!!!

[curious]

Half to him': Melham's unique deal with husband

Ben Talintyre

After winning the Melbourne Cup Jamie Melham may regret promising half the prizemoney to her husband and fellow jockey Ben in the lead-up to the great race.

“Ben loves the name,” Melham said about her Melbourne Cup mount Half Yours.

Jamie Melham pictured with her husband Ben Melham. (Photo by Jay Town/Racing Photos via Getty Images)

“Now we’re married, half (prizemoney) goes to him and half goes to me.

[Gammalite]

48 minutes ago, curious said:

“Now we’re married, half (prizemoney) goes to him and half goes to me

only newly married this year, so with a large sum like that they could invest in 'real estate' . and set up a nice new home togeather. Hopefully for many years of wed Bliss 🤔

that way if they split up later on (like one in 4 couples do)  they can split the home like anyone else 😋 . Meanwhile they can have a nice modern home to live in and it builds in value over time as well.

even buy a nice dog for it ? lol. 😆 well Ben could buy a 2nd dog out of his half anyway. A pick each that way 😅 and no fighting lol.

[Newmarket]

6 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Sorry to shatter you delusion but I'm not upset.  It is actually amusing reading the crap you write albeit now becoming repetitive.

The gaps were always going to come.  They always do over 3200m and it is easier to push past a tiring horse.  Contrary to what some amateur punters think, such as yourself, a Jockey on a tiring horse will often move over for one full of running.  Of course the difference is it was 3200m NOT a sprint.  Also tiring horses will drift off the rail.

Jamie rode the perfect patient race especially when you read the real hard luck stories from the other Jockey's where their charges clipped heels, didn't settle, got caught 3 wide etc.  

Also another factor was when Land Legend surged to the lead and upper the tempo at the halfway point which made some gaps in the field and made a staying test.

Jamie being the cool calm experienced Jockey she is didn't panic.  She got the horse to settle beautifully, took the shortest route home and pushed the go button at the right time.

I wouldn't struggle but quite frankly educating you would do a disservice to the NZ Racing industry as they need your regular valuable monetary contribution.

Mmmm… your consistent thats for sure. One minute your saying gaps against the inside rail always appear in a 3200m race…but as usual, cant name one melbourne cup runner that has won in similar fashion. 
 

Look on all the Australian racing sites, they are applauding the horse more than the jockey winning cup, and i have to agree. 
 

Shit, can you imagine if she ever rode Damask Rose…. Chief would be creaming his panties🤭

 

[Chief Stipe]

9 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Mmmm… your consistent thats for sure. One minute your saying gaps against the inside rail always appear in a 3200m race…but as usual, cant name one melbourne cup runner that has won in similar fashion. 

We're discussing the 2025 Cup on its own merits.  I'm sorry I don't have the time to educate you on  the nuances of horse racing.  You just keep backing 7 horses to win in tbe same race.  The industry is very greatful for your contribution.

9 hours ago, Newmarket said:

 

Look on all the Australian racing sites, they are applauding the horse more than the jockey winning cup, and i have to agree. 

Well thats one concession I suppose as you were bagging the horse before the race even when the same nameless racing journalists you elude to weren't.

However let's leave the description of her ride to one of the greatest Australian Jockeys Glenn Boss.

Specifically, he said: "what a magnificent ride. You have got the accolades of the greatest of riders, all the owners here, the trainers, you just rode it beautifully". His comments praised her patience, poise, courage, and confidence in securing the rare Caulfield Cup-Melbourne Cup double, a feat that etched her name alongside other legends of the sport, including Boss himself.