Nomates horse Wild Night retires to the Good Life

[curious]

2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Depends I used pounds as the currency didnt change until July 1967.  Not as old as @Huey to remember what time of year the sales were held.

Did a pound = a dollar in 1967?

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Freda said:

Bonecrusher, Rough Habit...Pivotal Ten..

So on a value basis you and @Huey should have trained 5 champions by now?

I'm not sure why Pivotal Ten is in the mix.  Hardly done much except win some South Island black type.  Was a risky purchase as a yearling at $15k.

As for Rough Habit he was homebred and raced before he was sold.

On that basis there's bound to be a champion for sale on Gavelhouse. 

[Chief Stipe]

5 minutes ago, curious said:

Did a pound = a dollar in 1967?

I don’t know.  I can remember taking my piggy bank down to the Post Office to change the coins but can't remember the exchange rate.  Knowing Muldoon he probably short changed me!!!

[hesi]

22 minutes ago, curious said:

Did a pound = a dollar in 1967?

No, 2 dollars

 

[Special Agent]

The article may be slightly misleading.  The scribe says the horse has been retired to Windsor Park.  Mark Walker says Wild Night will see his days out as a pleasure horse.  Windsor Park wouldn't have enough paddocks to retire all the horses bred by them.  My money is on Wild Night joining Gina Schick's Event Stars for a time until rehomed to a different equestrian discipline.

[Shad]

12 hours ago, Freda said:

 

I thought 3k but could be totally wrong, by blarney kiss I think, what a bargin either way, great to see his colours still going around with Snows granddaughter Jamie Lee, lostcause was my tip for the nz cup, but pulled out before final field, shame as would have relished those conditions, nice mare bit unlucky in last years nz an Auckland cup, bad draws an tough runs.

[Bloke]

On 19/11/2025 at 10:11 AM, Chief Stipe said:

Depends I used pounds as the currency didnt change until July 1967.  Not as old as @Huey to remember what time of year the sales were held.

Daryl's Joy was foaled on 01-09-1966. He was sold at the yearling sales in January 1968 for $1,100, not 1,100 pounds as Decimal currency came in on 10-07-1967.

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Bloke said:

Daryl's Joy was foaled on 01-09-1966. He was sold at the yearling sales in January 1968 for $1,100, not 1,100 pounds as Decimal currency came in on 10-07-1967.

Who really cares?  Any horse that doesn't win isn't a cheap horse.  Wild Nighr was a good buy but then I guess you cynical mentally retired types wouldnt agree.

[Bloke]

9 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Who really cares?  Any horse that doesn't win isn't a cheap horse.  Wild Nighr was a good buy but then I guess you cynical mentally retired types wouldnt agree.

Will you certainly care you put up an incorrect equation re Darly's Joy purchase price, working on pounds so that it converted to a higher amount in today's terms. 

[Chief Stipe]

On 24/11/2025 at 7:59 AM, Bloke said:

Will you certainly care you put up an incorrect equation re Darly's Joy purchase price, working on pounds so that it converted to a higher amount in today's terms. 

Pedantic and a pedantic response.  Now I could ask how do you know that the purchase price was in dollars and not pounds?

[curious]

15 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Pedantic and a pedantic response.  Now I could ask how do you know that the purchase price was in dollars and not pounds?

That esteemed resource Wikipedia.

A bargain buy costing only $1,100 at the New Zealand yearling sales, he went on to win races in three different countries.

[Chief Stipe]

14 hours ago, curious said:

That esteemed resource Wikipedia.

A bargain buy costing only $1,100 at the New Zealand yearling sales, he went on to win races in three different countries.

Ok if you have a spare $5,500 pitch up on at Karaka in January 25 2026 and buy five champions for @Freda to train.

[hesi]

It can be done, as I said NZB Filly of the Year, Leica Lucy cost the Crofskey's $5,000 to breed, the cost of the service to Derryn.  Before that 2013 Derby winner Habibi cost $15,000, Ekraar's service fee

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, hesi said:

It can be done, as I said NZB Filly of the Year, Leica Lucy cost the Crofskey's $5,000 to breed, the cost of the service to Derryn.  Before that 2013 Derby winner Habibi cost $15,000, Ekraar's service fee

You don't win unless you are in.  I'm just waiting to hear what @Huey has invested in.

[Huey]

3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Pedantic and a pedantic respomse.  Now I could ask how do you know that the purchase price was in dollars and not pounds?

It's a big cope for you @Chief Stipe ,if you need to talk to someone about it Im here !or you.

[Huey]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Ok if you have a spare $5,500 pitch up on at Karaka in January 25 2025 and buy five champions for @Freda to train.

I'm all in , so long as I can borrow your 'time machine'!

[Chief Stipe]

On 24/11/2025 at 7:59 AM, Bloke said:

Will you certainly care you put up an incorrect equation re Darly's Joy purchase price, working on pounds so that it converted to a higher amount in today's terms. 

How do you know it wasn't pounds?  Anyway the Topic was about Wild Night being a relatively cheap purchase at $50k compared to the average for the sale he went through.  The average was $123k and the median $95k.

Then all the negative nellies start chirping about all the cheaper bargains that none of them had a share in.
 

[Special Agent]

46 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

How do you know it wasn't pounds?  Anyway the Topic was about Wild Night being a relatively cheap purchase at $50k compared to the average for the sale he went through.  The average was $123k and the median $95k.

Then all the negative nellies start chirping about all the cheaper bargains that none of them had a share in.
 

And how much did he win?  I think they'd be in front, plus the immeasurable amount of fun.

There are cheap ones and expensive ones at every sale that turn out decent racehorses, and flops.  I think it's great it's not just a matter of spending the most to get the best.

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, Special Agent said:

And how much did he win?  I think they'd be in front, plus the immeasurable amount of fun.

 

$554,350.  Won the Grp2 Annie Sarten Memorial.  A gallant 3rd in the Grp1 Herbie Dyke.  A tough second in the $1m Karaka Million 3yr old classic (galloped on and interferred with when Prowess lay out).  Won the Uncle Remus Stakes.

Raced against some very good 3yr olds of his year - Prowess, Legarto, Sharp N' Smart, Sacred Satono, Desert Lightning, Campionessa.  You can also add horses like La Crique and Levante to those he beat.  

A shame he was hampered through his career by leg issues.

[billy connolly]

On 23/11/2025 at 9:25 PM, Bloke said:

Daryl's Joy was foaled on 01-09-1966. He was sold at the yearling sales in January 1968 for $1,100, not 1,100 pounds as Decimal currency came in on 10-07-1967.

A bargain at any price, this Wild Night thing wouldn't be in the same street. 

Daryl's Joy beat Vain at level weights, second-rated a Cox Plate field as a three-year-old and won VRC derby in a hand canter. 

Bill Skelton's face lit up like a Whore House whenever Daryl's Joy's name was mentioned. 

[hesi]

Simple conclusion

Despite all the assertions to the contrary, does anyone really know how good a young horse will be until it is tested on a racetrack under race conditions.

Even someone like David Ellis would acknowledge this.

He buys a lot of horses, some turn out to be group winners, but a lot don't do much

[Huey]

3 hours ago, hesi said:

Simple conclusion

Despite all the assertions to the contrary, does anyone really know how good a young horse will be until it is tested on a racetrack under race conditions.

Even someone like David Ellis would acknowledge this.

He buys a lot of horses, some turn out to be group winners, but a lot don't do much

No no thats not true , check the TA website and they can tell already where they are headed. One from the R2R sales is going to the Sire Produce already .

[Chief Stipe]

3 hours ago, hesi said:

Even someone like David Ellis would acknowledge this.

He buys a lot of horses, some turn out to be group winners, but a lot don't do much

Yet he has the best black type strike rate of any buyer from the Magic Millions sale.  

[Huey]

8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yet he has the best black type strike rate of any buyer from the Magic Millions sale.  

Yeah cause he takes the expensive Aus breed stock to one of the weakest black type jurisdictions in the world to race ... it ain't rocket science like you try to make it out to be @Chief Stipe !

[Chief Stipe]

27 minutes ago, Huey said:

Yeah cause he takes the expensive Aus breed stock to one of the weakest black type jurisdictions in the world to race ... it ain't rocket science like you try to make it out to be @Chief Stipe !

You can't help yourself @Huey .  I know this will wind you up hence I'm posting it.  I see Mark Walker (Te Akau) received an Award from Southside Racing (Cranbourne and Pakenham) for the "Best Strike Rate Trainer" for the last season!  Plus the South Island Trainers championship!

If you think the black type racing is New Zealand is weak then I guess you haven't tried to win some!

LOL I must say that this comment has me uncontrollably laughing as it contradicts where you and others went with this thread.  So are you saying the trick to racing success is "to buy expensive yearlings and place them well"?