Southland,Race riding

[muzenza365]

You wonder why people don't like having a punt down South. The course was presented in great order. The weather played its part, the crowd turned up, so why was the Riding of such a low standard? 

A total of 6 riders were given suspensions: 5 National Days and 1 rider got 6 National Days.

One charge I believe should have been upgraded to Dangerous Riding and that was Kauri, I had an investment in Blue Goddess and was given a nice run until Kauri decided that he had been 3 wide long enough and pulled the left handlebar down and wiped Blue Goddess out ,she dipped with the jockey almost being dislodged, this was shit that i did years ago and like i was handed with the applicable rule.

Now this horse was wiped out of the race, so the owner has float and training fees to get the horse to the races.The punters who made it a favourite had thrown their money down the drain.Punters can only take so much rubbish.

Now this 5 National Day suspension is rubbish.Kauri gets 5 National Days included Gore,Ashburton and Taupo,i don't believe he would be going to 2, maybe 3 meetings, so should he not advise what Trainers he was going to ride for and get supporting evidence that this fact and if incorrect charge the Trainer and Jockey, just seems a rort to me and look at the SI based jockeys and they fall into this bullshit as well.It is window dressing at best, attempting to show strength, but in fact it is WEAKNESS,being shown by both the Stewards and the RIU and if that what the rule says, change the rule to show real strength and Integrity.

Now on a positive note, a rider who I believe is underrated, Corey Campbell, was on Trackside Radio and went through his rides and he labeled Our Approval as his best, even though after the Blue Goddess debacle, i was not going back to Southland to punt when you have Aussie underway, but as he is a rider i rate i backed it along with 3 punting mates got plenty, and he rode it like a professonial and gave it the PERFECT run.

 

 

[Freda]

The policing of riding is awful and that's why there is no improvement.

Sit a few more on their butts for a decent amount of time, the reducing bank account will soon improve their outlook.  But the ability of stipes to read races is  poor and that may also mean some riders are penalized unfairly.  A can of worms.

Not a new situation though.  A former apprentice of mine, a leading rider here, went to Sydney when his apprenticeship  ended and started riding work for Gai.

Got a ride, drew wide and ended up in behind the leader.  He was very proud of his effort, until he got back and was told firmly ' you're not in the Sth Island of NZ now,  boy' .....he got six weeks for taking another's line.   Probably tightened a few as well.

Edited 2 hours ago by Freda

[curious]

1 hour ago, Freda said:

The policing of riding is awful and that's why there is no improvement.

Sit a few more on their butts for a decent amount of time, the reducing bank account will soon improve their outlook.  But the ability of stipes to read races is  poor and that may also mean some riders are penalized unfairly.  A can of worms.

Not a new situation though.  A former apprentice of mine, a leading rider here, went to Sydney when his apprenticeship  ended and started riding work for Gai.

Got a ride, drew wide and ended up in behind the leader.  He was very proud of his effort, until he got back and was told firmly ' you're not in the Sth Island of NZ now,  boy' .....he got six weeks for taking another's line.   Probably tightened a few as well.

That sort of shit here goes on all the time, especially early in races, eliminates other horses chances and is ignored or met with a slap on the hand.  No wonder that Entain are getting tired of NZTR's performance.

[the galah]

3 hours ago, muzenza365 said:

You wonder why people don't like having a punt down South. The course was presented in great order. The weather played its part, the crowd turned up, so why was the Riding of such a low standard? 

A total of 6 riders were given suspensions: 5 National Days and 1 rider got 6 National Days.

One charge I believe should have been upgraded to Dangerous Riding and that was Kauri, I had an investment in Blue Goddess and was given a nice run until Kauri decided that he had been 3 wide long enough and pulled the left handlebar down and wiped Blue Goddess out ,she dipped with the jockey almost being dislodged, this was shit that i did years ago and like i was handed with the applicable rule.

Now this horse was wiped out of the race, so the owner has float and training fees to get the horse to the races.The punters who made it a favourite had thrown their money down the drain.Punters can only take so much rubbish.

Now this 5 National Day suspension is rubbish.Kauri gets 5 National Days included Gore,Ashburton and Taupo,i don't believe he would be going to 2, maybe 3 meetings, so should he not advise what Trainers he was going to ride for and get supporting evidence that this fact and if incorrect charge the Trainer and Jockey, just seems a rort to me and look at the SI based jockeys and they fall into this bullshit as well.It is window dressing at best, attempting to show strength, but in fact it is WEAKNESS,being shown by both the Stewards and the RIU and if that what the rule says, change the rule to show real strength and Integrity.

Now on a positive note, a rider who I believe is underrated, Corey Campbell, was on Trackside Radio and went through his rides and he labeled Our Approval as his best, even though after the Blue Goddess debacle, i was not going back to Southland to punt when you have Aussie underway, but as he is a rider i rate i backed it along with 3 punting mates got plenty, and he rode it like a professonial and gave it the PERFECT run.

 

 

I've been following the south island gallops closely for a year or so now and personally i think the overall standard of riding is better than it was a year or two ago.From a betting perspective i think the tactical decisions of the jockeys is easy enough to follow and your not left disappointed like you used to so often be in a riders decsions.

all the riders seem to be more consistent. The apprentices seem to be showing a bit more initaitive and the older riders seem to ride the same each week.

There are some of the older riders that do seem over cautious in what they think may be going to happen in front of them and seem to ride like they are worried a bit about their safety.

B Murray in particular. You can tell the horses he rides get the message to switch off mostly when he gets amongst the field,but also the likes of T mosely and even the souths best jockey k williams i think does if she gets amongst the field.She of course is so good in getting handy early or positioned on the outer that you don't see it as much.And when the gallopers are getting that message,they tend to run accordingly.Both mosely and williams rode winners yesterday and rode them well,just the one i backed that mosely rode you could just ignore it went around. Hopefully he gets them next time.Its very obvious too that the better riders are the ones who like to race handy and show a touch more aggression early.

K bakker and f moerman both went from being quite average to being the better riders recently. And it simply seemed to come down to them having gained enough confidence to trust in their own abilty to judge a race and i think not worry about a trainer having a moan about not getting the perfect run sometimes.Their recent results cleary show that.

and i think invercargill is a track where they have too many in some races. Its a track that ii think should only have 12 starters at most. Run another race instead of having 14  starters.

having said all that,yesterday i had just the 4 bets,all 4 missed the start and settled last,3 chose to go on the inside and simply never got a run or got out far too late and the other resented being restrained when on the outside,but at least the jockey tried to give it a chance and made a move,unlike the other 3 who early on you could tell had put themselves in a position where they couldn't.

actually the jockey,y yeatchamach,no idea whether i spelt that correctly,i had commented about a year ago how poor he rode and how poor the a carston horses were ridden tactically and that i thought that was because they maty have been getting  instructions that were making the riders more worried about doing nothing  wrong than doing things right.

Well, y yatchamah has improved in a big way and seems to be thinking for himself since not riding as many for carston..

And a carston has gone more into putting jockeys on who ride to win than wait for next month and his results have improved again. He is a very good trainer.

anyway,thats my thoughts for a sunday morning.

Edited 17 minutes ago by the galah

[Freda]

Yogesh Atchamah is out of his apprenticeship now.