telfer horses

[the galah]

i see maurice mckendry driving most of the  telfer horses today,instead of j dickie, who only drove the one from the stable who wasn't given much chance by the trainer in the preview.

They certainly are different drivers. Mckendry tends to drive at a more consistent speed,but not very aggressive most of the time ,whereas dickie tends to put them up on the speed whenever he gets the chance.

because mckendry drives them kinder and the horse doesn't bust a gut trying,the stable may improve,but then again dickie is the better driver if you are a punter.

who knows

its a stable i think you would go broke betting on,but they are nz 's leading stable on wins.

Theres also seems a  diifference in performance if north island horses  transfer to the south island,they always improve,but then  lose a few lengths when they go back up north.

the horses in the north isalnd tend to go way from stands ,whereas the horses in the south island tend to always break in stands. Of course there are some obvious exception.

then you also have the north isalnd horses go better when t williams drives themif hes up there.

i find them a confusing stable to follow.

but they look like they will break the nz record for number of wins.

Edited Wednesday at 05:01 AM by the galah

[Nowornever]

Just back Tim Williams when he is on them. They seem to fire for him. 

Dickie not much of a driver since he came back from Australia. Seems to end up parked or no room on too many horses that should be winning. 

He can still get one home if he is in front. Several drivers like that in the South as well.

Cox, Smith and a few of the girls Green, Tomlinson's, Thornley's you want to be on them if they are in front or trail but no thanks if they are back in the field. Up the middle with no room the norm.

[mikeynz]

Those Telfer horses at Westport have gone like shit.

[the galah]

4 hours ago, mikeynz said:

Those Telfer horses at Westport have gone like shit.

i never consider them if they are running  on wet grass tracks.They never seem to go much good. And you have to factor in they don't travel well if going to places like the coast but the opposite applies when they go to southland,as they seem to go  even better there. Theres been those patterns for some time now,obviously theres a reason,but you could only guess.

Thats why i said earlier ,you would go broke backing them,even though they win so many races.

Edited Friday at 07:44 AM by the galah

[Shad]

10 minutes ago, the galah said:

i never consider them if they are running  on wet grass tracks.They never seem to go much good. And you have to factor in they don't travel well if going to places like the coast but the opposite applies when they go to southland,as they seem to go  even better there. Theres been those patterns for some time now,obviously theres a reason,but you could only guess.

Thats why i said earlier ,you would go broke backing them,even though they win so many races.

Track wasn't really wet, hardly marked it, they were poor, but so were a few others, can't really blame the track.

[Nowornever]

5 hours ago, mikeynz said:

Those Telfer horses at Westport have gone like shit.

Thats why grass is so popular with punters. Those bigger stables can not dominate like they can on the grit.

[Brodie]

19 minutes ago, Nowornever said:

Thats why grass is so popular with punters. Those bigger stables can not dominate like they can on the grit.

Hard to believe a few of the big win bets today on a grass track at Westport!

The Bookies take these bets and yet restrict smaller bets?

one bet was $10k @ $2.50 was never a good value bet at all!

There were others that also looked more of a gamble than a worthwhile punt?

My point is with punters offloading like this, surely in best interests of the TAB/Entain to stop all restrictions on punters and get the turnover and profit up??

[Gammalite]

On 12/26/2025 at 5:43 PM, the galah said:

Thats why i said earlier ,you would go broke backing them,even though they win so many races.

well having a look it seems across the 2 days they had seven starters for 1 win with the House and Hope stables with a fairly similar result. you'd go broke backing them too lol 😁💰  some 'rough horses run at Westport lol.🤣

 

Hey I did see one of 'Bootsies' horses that he purchased after it won it's last start in NZ 2 years ago at Westport Dec 2023 exactly 2 years ago , won the 'Shirley Turnbull Memorial ' at Bathhurst last Friday night. almost 2 years to the day after his final NZ run (and win at Westport) 

You blokes won't remember the horse,  but DONEGAL LUTHER at a rather juicy 50-1  odds too, won the Feature listed race for trainer/driver Amanda Turnbull  , defeating the star pacer the Interdominion finalist 'Captain's Knock' into 2nd who had won it's past 6 starts, and the Grand old Bootsie horse SWAYZEE , the double NZ Cup winner , in for 3rd. 

Mick Boots must of bought near 100 NZ horses over the past 3 years (after the success of Swayzee and Betterzippit)  and has them with 17 different trainers across the land. and NZ too , where he still races Captain's Mistress at Nathan's down south there for example. 

A Westport winning horse like DONEGAL LUTHER can earn about 100k here in country NSW per year in the right hands . he had only won 2 races last year 2024, but 2025 he got going a bit better and has won 7 from 20 starts this year to win 100k. some were at Menangle too.  

[Nowornever]

3 hours ago, Gammalite said:

well having a look it seems across the 2 days they had seven starters for 1 win with the House and Hope stables with a fairly similar result. you'd go broke backing them too lol 😁💰  some 'rough horses run at Westport lol.🤣

Not the House stable. They get them up at double figure odds quite regularly. Got a good collect off Sweet Willow yesterday at 50-1.  You never see a telfer horse win paying more than $5.00. In fact most of them are sub $2.50.

[Shad]

3 hours ago, Gammalite said:

well having a look it seems across the 2 days they had seven starters for 1 win with the House and Hope stables with a fairly similar result. you'd go broke backing them too lol 😁💰  some 'rough horses run at Westport lol.🤣

 

Hey I did see one of 'Bootsies' horses that he purchased after it won it's last start in NZ 2 years ago at Westport Dec 2023 exactly 2 years ago , won the 'Shirley Turnbull Memorial ' at Bathhurst last Friday night. almost 2 years to the day after his final NZ run (and win at Westport) 

You blokes won't remember the horse,  but DONEGAL LUTHER at a rather juicy 50-1  odds too, won the Feature listed race for trainer/driver Amanda Turnbull  , defeating the star pacer the Interdominion finalist 'Captain's Knock' into 2nd who had won it's past 6 starts, and the Grand old Bootsie horse SWAYZEE , the double NZ Cup winner , in for 3rd. 

Mick Boots must of bought near 100 NZ horses over the past 3 years (after the success of Swayzee and Betterzippit)  and has them with 17 different trainers across the land. and NZ too , where he still races Captain's Mistress at Nathan's down south there for example. 

A Westport winning horse like DONEGAL LUTHER can earn about 100k here in country NSW per year in the right hands . he had only won 2 races last year 2024, but 2025 he got going a bit better and has won 7 from 20 starts this year to win 100k. some were at Menangle too.  

Been some good horses win at Westport over the years, armalight won her first start there, our mana, won the 10k bonus along with Steven John, Wilbur Win, both locals, The tough nut, pankys pacer, also a few of the Nairn trotters start there careers on the grass track, was certainly good racing over the two days, backed ultimate council both days, certainly honest run from great draws, not so today, samvasa as well, and plenty of not so fast ones in between, took solemn sun today fixed at 150s, must be due to trot after breaking last 5 or so starts, we live in hope.

[Shad]

6 minutes ago, Nowornever said:

Not the House stable. They get them up at double figure odds quite regularly. Got a good collect off Sweet Willow yesterday at 50-1.  You never see a telfer horse win paying more than $5.00. In fact most of them are sub $2.50.

Well done I looked at that horse probably due to the big div it was paying, also Hope's trotter, but didn't end up having a bet unfortunately, nice big fields there, did you have the inside word on willow, didn't have much form to speak of, but a good draw, thought it may have paid a bit more, but nothing wrong with 50s, good work.

[Nowornever]

32 minutes ago, Shad said:

did you have the inside word on willow

It looked a good bet on paper. 

Wilson house trying to win the junior premiership so the horses are ready to go.

Leaders track and it crossed The Mantis (a fast horse off the gate) when it won at Timaru in a 1:59 mile rate.

Sweet Lous go good on grass.

Only surprising thing was the price. I thought it would come in not go out.