JJ Flash Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Would be 4550 if he was working at the AllStars stable Stupid post. If he was working for All Stars he would not be credited for any wins under current HRNZ rules of racing which you continually show you have no understanding of. Greg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Stupid post. If he was working for All Stars he would not be credited for any wins under current HRNZ rules of racing which you continually show you have no understanding of. Greg Anyone with half a brain can see Brodie's post was tongue in cheek stop being such a "soy boy" and lighten up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harewood Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: darksiders only want there to be one trainer in this country and to take all the spoils that's why so many horses are being sold off Didnt know they were around in the 60s and 70s when truckloads of horses were going to the US of A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harewood Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Brodie said: Would be 4550 if he was working at the AllStars stable You do really have a deep seated problem with the All Stars Brodie. There is help available you know when something eats you up inside so badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 22 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: what about uncle Denis lol Denny would make a good manager for Sarah. He can read a race better than most punters I know.and loves the social side of racing too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Anyone with half a brain can see Brodie's post was tongue in cheek stop being such a "soy boy" and lighten up Whatever you say troll Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, Harewood said: Didnt know they were around in the 60s and 70s when truckloads of horses were going to the US of A Purdon name been around for years Murray and Doug purdon trained in Canterbury would have to be worst trainers in country and Owen not far behind as for horses sold to usa in 60s and 70s there was a hell of lot more horses around then and more trainers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, Richie said: Denny would make a good manager for Sarah. He can read a race better than most punters I know.and loves the social side of racing too sad news to here there mum past away last night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 55 minutes ago, Harewood said: Didnt know they were around in the 60s and 70s when truckloads of horses were going to the US of A The first I noticed was in the early 80's when loads of horses went to the u.s, but those voids were quickly filled and we seemed to have a never ending supply of intermediate Pacers and trotters, Auckland used to have really strong full fields, but now the fields are the poorest I can remember, on the pacing side at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harewood Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: Purdon name been around for years Murray and Doug purdon trained in Canterbury would have to be worst trainers in country and Owen not far behind as for horses sold to usa in 60s and 70s there was a hell of lot more horses around then and more trainers I realise that. I have been around for a while. What I am saying is that there were a lot of horses sold in the early years when the All Stars were not around. Nothing has changed except probably there are not as many sold now as before. So how has the All Stars got to blame for the exodus of horses overseas when itsbeeen going on for decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harewood Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: The first I noticed was in the early 80's when loads of horses went to the u.s, but those voids were quickly filled and we seemed to have a never ending supply of intermediate Pacers and trotters, Auckland used to have really strong full fields, but now the fields are the poorest I can remember, on the pacing side at least. Correct however it was earlier then the 80s, Remember Young Quin, Cardigan Bay, Robin Dundee. Cloudy Bay to name a few top liners that went over in the early years. Where the pacers have gone now ??? Can only be put down to less breeding numbers, part time farmers getting older and out of the game, younger owner trainers not as many about. Cannot blame the All Stars as they rarely venture north except on premier nights and the small fields are week in week out. Maybe when House starts up there the fileds will be bigger as he will have 2 or 3 ex south islanders in each race. Can the SI racing sustain the exodus north? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, Harewood said: Correct however it was earlier then the 80s, Remember Young Quin, Cardigan Bay, Robin Dundee. Cloudy Bay to name a few top liners that went over in the early years. Where the pacers have gone now ??? Can only be put down to less breeding numbers, part time farmers getting older and out of the game, younger owner trainers not as many about. Cannot blame the All Stars as they rarely venture north except on premier nights and the small fields are week in week out. Maybe when House starts up there the fileds will be bigger as he will have 2 or 3 ex south islanders in each race. Can the SI racing sustain the exodus north? Judging by the big fields down south I think they can soak it up, it just makes me want to cry when you look at the state of open class racing in the north and you see the likes of scicario win his first big race for new Aussie connections the south Australia cup at the weekend..... what is the last dangling carrot left to keep good horses here ? Obviously not the stake increases at Alex park on a Friday night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, JJ Flash said: What is the relevance of your 2 points about real estate and Vets to this discussion? Greg Is it not obvious that having a vet as his partner would be an asset. Personally I think his strike rate has improved in recent years because of that. That does not in any way infer there is anything illegal going on. One thing I do know is some vets will help improve a horses performance. I have seen it ,if using a good vet wasn't an integral part of some stables success, why do they spend so much money on them? Having NZ"s best driver on is another obvious asset Edited February 13, 2019 by the galah 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 hours ago, the galah said: Is it not obvious that having a vet as his partner would be an asset. Personally I think his strike rate has improved in recent years because of that. That does not in any way infer there is anything illegal going on. One thing I do know is some vets will help improve a horses performance. I have seen it ,if using a good vet wasn't an integral part of some stables success, why do they spend so much money on them? Having NZ"s best driver on is another obvious asset I see where your coming from but not sure that's what hunter was inferring although one never knows with some of his posts. As for the vet improvement influence there's a chap out Rangiora way with a vet in close proximity whose strike rate is not flash in any respect Some vets are obviously better than others but in Canterbury a lot use the same one so who gets any advantage out of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, JJ Flash said: I see where your coming from but not sure that's what hunter was inferring although one never knows with some of his posts. As for the vet improvement influence there's a chap out Rangiora way with a vet in close proximity whose strike rate is not flash in any respect Some vets are obviously better than others but in Canterbury a lot use the same one so who gets any advantage out of that. As to the vet out rangiora way,i used her once to treat a horse that had started coughing . I was just an owner trainer who did not use vets because of the cost. She was very reasonably priced and stated when treating the horse that '"Her pre race treatment wont help them run fast like some other vets pre race treatment might,I'm just treating what the problem may be",or words to that effect." I thought her very good. I know what you mean about lots using the same vets in Canterbury. My impression was you got what you paid for,deep pockets were an advantage, and preferred clients existed for the highest profile vet. Then there was another higher profile vet who is now based elsewhere who treated all his clients the same.That's just my take on some vets.. Edited February 13, 2019 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, the galah said: As to the vet out rangiora way,i used her once to treat a horse that had started coughing . I was just an owner trainer who did not use vets because of the cost. She was very reasonably priced and stated when treating the horse that '"Her pre race treatment wont help them run fast like some other vets pre race treatment might,I'm just treating what the problem may be",or words to that effect." I thought her very good. I know what you mean about lots using the same vets in Canterbury. My impression was you got what you paid for,deep pockets were an advantage, and preferred clients existed for the highest profile vet. That's just my take on vets.. I have used all of the major Christchurch and surrounds Vets over the years with different trainers. They are all good as long as you use the experienced partners IMHO. Also i find them much cheaper than Waikato ones. Remember one young vet looked over a potentially high priced yearling at sales one day for his client. He saw me an hour or so later just before it was due to go up on another matter but mentioned about the well bred yearling he had vetted earlier. I said " shame about the club foot" Never seen a guys face drop so quick and run as fast as he did. Always have a laugh when i see him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 9:33 AM, hunterthepunter said: house was never much of a trainer but now is training a lot for the realestate agent and houses mrs was a vet too but not our resident real estate going by his comments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 16 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: tongue in cheek stop being such a "soy boy" and lighten up available at "soi cowboy" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 16 hours ago, Harewood said: You do really have a deep seated problem with the All Stars Brodie. There is help available you know when something eats you up inside so badly. the human rights commission ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Rangatira said: available at "soi cowboy" Free with every lady boy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 21 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: Free with every lady boy! any restrictions at soi cowboy brodie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rangatira said: any restrictions at soi cowboy brodie ? Mankinis and and hot pants very restrictive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Flagship uberalles said: Mankinis and and hot pants very restrictive! that will take some erasing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, Rangatira said: that will take some erasing Sweet dreams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 8:50 PM, hunterthepunter said: sad news to here there mum past away last night Yeah was mate.She been a trooper behind the scene for decades. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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