Hey Chief…. Views on Damask Rose?

[Chief Stipe]

18 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

As for the Rose, positive is the jockey, negative is the distance, i know some on here say she is always battling on at finish, but i dont think she will run the 1600m too well today.

Flew home in the KiwiB this time last year over 1500m.  The 2nd horse in that race Evaporate has won two Grp 3 races in OZ since.  2 months earlier she won the KM over 1600m.

[Murray Fish]

5 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Evaporate

currently 4th fav in the All Stars Mile!!

[Shab]

Got the 6 bucks plus and nearly got the win. Who says barrier draws don’t matter 

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, Shab said:

Got the 6 bucks plus and nearly got the win. Who says barrier draws don’t matter 

Yeah when it got to $6 I took it just as I said I would.  Just before I heard the commentators say that she had drifted because the pattern of racing today would suit her!  Top effort when you look at the run.  I can hear the knockers knocking but she will win a decent race.

If I was an owner of the horse I'd be happy.  The residual value keeps getting better.

[Newmarket]

Ran home ok, better than last few starts, but still not winning with a good ride. As i mentioned, Philia was the one in that race, gap a bit earlier and Rose would have got windburn. No worries, will get my money back on it, but cant see Rose getting a weaker field for awhile. 

[Chief Stipe]

Ran home in 33.1 for the 600m.  Two sub 11 sectionals.

Damask Rose ran the last 600m quicker than the Grp 1 All Star Mile.  They ran home in 1.7 seconds slower and none of them broke 11 seconds.

[Chief Stipe]

1 minute ago, Newmarket said:

Ran home ok, better than last few starts, but still not winning with a good ride. As i mentioned, Philia was the one in that race, gap a bit earlier and Rose would have got windburn. No worries, will get my money back on it, but cant see Rose getting a weaker field for awhile. 

 

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Ran home in 33.1 for the 600m.  Two sub 11 sectionals.

Damask Rose ran the last 600m quicker than the Grp 1 All Star Mile.  They ran home in 1.7 seconds slower and none of them broke 11 seconds.

Check the sectionals and revise your opinion.

[Shab]

9 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I can hear the knockers knocking but she will win a decent race

Knockers unlikely to ever have one half as good. Good on you for having a bet. The excitement of the finish with some money on was worth it.

[Shab]

4 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Ran home ok, better than last few starts, but still not winning with a good ride. As i mentioned, Philia was the one in that race, gap a bit earlier and Rose would have got windburn. No worries, will get my money back on it, but cant see Rose getting a weaker field for awhile. 

Soft track and better barrier would have won but wouldn’t pay as much. Philia a good horse as well and I think you’re right will win more

[Newmarket]

6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Ran home in 33.1 for the 600m.  Two sub 11 sectionals.

Damask Rose ran the last 600m quicker than the Grp 1 All Star Mile.  They ran home in 1.7 seconds slower and none of them broke 11 seconds.

Here we go…. Last 600m sectionals come out and comparing times? Maybe can you tell the horse to run home quicker… then it will win races😁
 

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, Shab said:

Knockers unlikely to ever have one half as good. Good on you for having a bet. The excitement of the finish with some money on was worth it.

Another AUD$36k in the kitty!  AUD$90k in 3 starts.

[Huey]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

You're irrelevant @Huey and anyone sane who reads your posts knows you have a chip on both shoulders.  Get over whatever it was in racing that pissed you off it is destroying your enjoyment of your twilight years.

I gather it was you that started the fake news about Te Akau leaving Cranbourne.  

Lmao,  even a fool like me could tip a winner over you. 

You continue to look sillier and sillier by the day, bring out the book of excuses quickly!

[Chief Stipe]

11 minutes ago, Huey said:

Lmao,  even a fool like me could tip a winner over you. 

You continue to look sillier and sillier by the day, bring out the book of excuses quickly!

@Huey I don't recall you ever posting any tips just boring negativity.  No one likes a grumpy old man sadly.  Why don't you line up for your nightly tot of rum and let the rest of us enjoy racing.?!

Once again a good horse beaten by the track.  Inside was the place to be all day today at Flemington.

[Chief Stipe]

Here's another stat for the negative types - Damask Rose ran her last 600m in the same time as the winner of the Newmarket.

She broke 1:21 for the last 1400m and only 0.11 slower for the 1200m Newmarket!  

@Newmarket and @Huey

[Newmarket]

27 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Here's another stat for the negative types - Damask Rose ran her last 600m in the same time as the winner of the Newmarket.

She broke 1:21 for the last 1400m and only 0.11 slower for the 1200m Newmarket!  

@Newmarket and @Huey

Well, thats good info but that is her style of racing, one run at them, but quite clearly it seems to be never quick enough. I never said the horse was not good, i just said it is battling in Aus against stronger company compared to NZ horses. Only have to look at the Aussie raiders that come over and make our stayers look 2nd rate, like today. 
Another example of a horse battling in Aus is Leica Lucy, really thought once over ground in Aus it would win some good races, but it was disappointing again today. So dont take it to heart, its just my opinion, and of course i would love to own it. 

[hesi]

16 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Well, thats good info but that is her style of racing, one run at them, but quite clearly it seems to be never quick enough. I never said the horse was not good, i just said it is battling in Aus against stronger company compared to NZ horses. Only have to look at the Aussie raiders that come over and make our stayers look 2nd rate, like today. 
Another example of a horse battling in Aus is Leica Lucy, really thought once over ground in Aus it would win some good races, but it was disappointing again today. So dont take it to heart, its just my opinion, and of course i would love to own it. 

She established herself in NZ as a class filly through winning races 2000-2400m.

Since she has been in Aus, only her first start, the Aus Oaks was over distance, every other race has been 1400-1600m, like today.

Same situation with Willydoit, never once raced in Aus past 1600m, yet established himself in NZ as a quality stayer

[hesi]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yeah when it got to $6 I took it just as I said I would.  Just before I heard the commentators say that she had drifted because the pattern of racing today would suit her!  Top effort when you look at the run.  I can hear the knockers knocking but she will win a decent race.

If I was an owner of the horse I'd be happy.  The residual value keeps getting better.

Yes, but not in Aus

[hesi]

58 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Here's another stat for the negative types - Damask Rose ran her last 600m in the same time as the winner of the Newmarket.

She broke 1:21 for the last 1400m and only 0.11 slower for the 1200m Newmarket!  

@Newmarket and @Huey

Why was she not in the Newmarket then

[Chief Stipe]

10 minutes ago, hesi said:

Why was she not in the Newmarket then

Because she isn't an out and sprinter.  Her best rated wins have been at 1500m and 1600m.

[hesi]

If she can break 1.21 for 1400m, she is a sprinter

[Chief Stipe]

14 minutes ago, hesi said:

If she can break 1.21 for 1400m, she is a sprinter

No a spinter/miler.  The fact that she ran those sectional times (not from a standing start) shows she is good enough to pick up a good Grp race in OZ.  We see the stars winning them back to back but there are plenty of options to place a horse well in OZ.  

[Chief Stipe]

I bet there are questions asked about the track bias at Flemington today.