Brodie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I note that Murray Howard driving the horse he trains was yesterday hammered with a $500 fine! He was fine for using his whip outside the whip regulation rule which I note they have once again renamed the offence!!!! Murray drives very infrequently and was heavily fined $500 for driving his horse to win! Gow dare he want to win a race by driving his horse out? If you watch the replay of race 5 At Waikouaiti Club that raced at Oamaru, it does not appear to have been an overly aggressive whip action from Murray Howard but yes over the last 400metres would’ve been more than 10. However, Murray did not whip the horse continuously at all, there was a long pause halfway up,the straight and then again when he felt he had a chance to actually win! What the eff was he meant to do, just sit there without using the whip? Yes the normal anti whip conglomerate will come on and say that he broke the rule! The reality is that most know that the rule is blatantly stupid and needs to go!!! Murray Howard, a very infrequent Driver has had a major part of his weekly income taken off him by HRNZ for trying to win a race and where he was overly vigorous on his own horse!!!!! Ridiculous HRNZ, Change the rule as you know you stuffed up majorly when you rushed it through without a great lot of thought or support!!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDWHITEMAN Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Brodie said: I note that Murray Howard driving the horse he trains was yesterday hammered with a $500 fine! He was fine for using his whip outside the whip regulation rule which I note they have once again renamed the offence!!!! Murray drives very infrequently and was heavily fined $500 for driving his horse to win! Gow dare he want to win a race by driving his horse out? If you watch the replay of race 5 At Waikouaiti Club that raced at Oamaru, it does not appear to have been an overly aggressive whip action from Murray Howard but yes over the last 400metres would’ve been more than 10. However, Murray did not whip the horse continuously at all, there was a long pause halfway up,the straight and then again when he felt he had a chance to actually win! What the eff was he meant to do, just sit there without using the whip? Yes the normal anti whip conglomerate will come on and say that he broke the rule! The reality is that most know that the rule is blatantly stupid and needs to go!!! Murray Howard, a very infrequent Driver has had a major part of his weekly income taken off him by HRNZ for trying to win a race and where he was overly vigorous on his own horse!!!!! Ridiculous HRNZ, Change the rule as you know you stuffed up majorly when you rushed it through without a great lot of thought or support!!! Whips need to go. I watched the replay and Mr Howard deserved what he got, in fact I think the fine should have been double. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 59 minutes ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: Whips need to go. I watched the replay and Mr Howard deserved what he got, in fact I think the fine should have been double. I agree, the rules are there for everyone and are well documented. If someone did strike his horse say 12 times and nothing was done all hell would break loose on here about how hopeless the RIU are for not being consistant. I'm thinking M Howard may have a previous charge or possibly asked for fine over suspension. Greg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 How come Matt Anderson wasn't fined for his drive on Letsspendanighttogetha many a whip in his drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: I agree, the rules are there for everyone and are well documented. If someone did strike his horse say 12 times and nothing was done all hell would break loose on here about how hopeless the RIU are for not being consistant. I'm thinking M Howard may have a previous charge or possibly asked for fine over suspension. Greg Natalie Rasmussen is one of the worst offenders when it comes to overuse of the whip! Next time she should get a 6 month suspension for not seeing the error of her ways! Edited February 25, 2019 by Brodie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: Whips need to go. I watched the replay and Mr Howard deserved what he got, in fact I think the fine should have been double. Bollocks, the whip wasn’t excessive at all, Whiteman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 hours ago, JJ Flash said: I agree, the rules are there for everyone and are well documented. If someone did strike his horse say 12 times and nothing was done all hell would break loose on here about how hopeless the RIU are for not being consistant. I'm thinking M Howard may have a previous charge or possibly asked for fine over suspension. Greg And right on Cue,this 2 hours ago, Roman said: How come Matt Anderson wasn't fined for his drive on Letsspendanighttogetha many a whip in his drive I have no idea as im not sure what race you are talking about but i think most will see the correlation i brought up a few posts ago. Greg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Old story, hammer the battlers, and pussyfoot around the rest, almosting telling them to hang up the reins, I guess there will, come a time when they will walk away. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 that ross Payne noes how too club a horse he should be sitting in grandstand for very long time with Rasmussen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I agree with brodie, didn't think it was over excessive, the wife given me more whip than that, only when I have my leather undies on. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 The 2 worst cases were in the NZ Cup by reinswomen and they get fined! Murray Howard a very part time driver and good horseman gets hammered in a maiden race with a poorish stake and gets fined $500. Rasmussen and Manning I think got $1000 in a several thousand dollar group 1 race? Pathetic ill thought out rule, got to go, end of storey! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Meant to be several hundred thousand dollar race Edited February 25, 2019 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, Brodie said: The 2 worst cases were in the NZ Cup by reinswomen and they get fined! Murray Howard a very part time driver and good horseman gets hammered in a maiden race with a poorish stake and gets fined $500. Rasmussen and Manning I think got $1000 in a several thousand dollar group 1 race? Manning got 2 weeks. It should have been 2 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Basil said: Manning got 2 weeks. It should have been 2 years. Did she not get fined Basil $1000 as well then? What did Ms. Rasmussen get? Edited February 25, 2019 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Mr Howard is obviously not a quick learner. I see he got 3 months and $500 fine for breaches of same rule less than a month after the fine he originally got. Well done to RIU, that's the consistency we are all looking for. And no, this is not directed to antagonize Brodie or anyone else before you come on and attack me for my opinion Greg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 25/02/2019 at 9:55 PM, Brodie said: Did she not get fined Basil $1000 as well then? What did Ms. Rasmussen get? nat the brat got 2.5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDWHITEMAN Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, JJ Flash said: Mr Howard is obviously not a quick learner. I see he got 3 months and $500 fine for breaches of same rule less than a month after the fine he originally got. Well done to RIU, that's the consistency we are all looking for. And no, this is not directed to antagonize Brodie or anyone else before you come on and attack me for my opinion Greg Well deserved again and the fine should have been doubled. He was fined $500 for the same offence just a few weeks ago, yet in spite of that he does the same thing again. Clearly, a slow learner. He deserved the three months suspension due to being a serial whip flogging offender, but fine should have been $1000. Well done RIU. The next step is to ban whips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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