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Ellerslie's Giant Derby Cockup


Thomass

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Some ficken idiot...read the Idiot Commitee

Decided to include ALL  Stakemoney paid back to last...in the Million Karaka 3yo

Not only that...but in a restricted race...which other countries have long since discounted for Qualifying 

And then they go and convert Aussie Dollars into NZ as well...so that these very average Aussies...on R65 Rating...are ahead of the likes of an R 73

Beggars belief how stupid some ELLERSLIE suits are...probably sloshed when they came up with this errant nonsense 

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I think it was Chris Waller who came out fighting in Aussie recently when some trainers suggested that stakes earnt in restricted ( Inglis ) sales races should be included in Golden slipper stakes...did you see that Tommo?   Very similar to what you say here...however the difference here is the septic conflicts between NZBloodstock/Auckland Racing Club directors..

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You're quite possibly right on that point...

The HQ suits like bending over as far as poss when it comes to mixing with the landed gentry....

The Vella Fella has a special landing place for his chopper...and a gold plated golf cart provided so he doesn't get horse poo on his galoshes if he had to f in walk

So if Vella said he wants ALL Stake money included...back to last..in his restricted race...

Baker and CEO Pauly....would also ask if they could lick his galoshes dry while they're at it...

Waller's bang on though...possibly the winner of such a race COULD be exempted...

...but to include ALL Stake money earnt in a Restricted race is simply bizarre 

 

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And you'll note the fawning Racing Media..apart from Lichter...who fair dinkum took Craig Baker apart...limb by limb

...haven't mentioned a thing about the ANOMALY!

Flash boy Guerin's too f in scared to for a start 

In case glamour boy Pauly I'm too flash to take my sunnies off on TV Wilcox...

kicks Guerin out of the Presidentes room...and bans him from doing patsy post race interviews

Talk about gutless 

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Maybe , just maybe , the onus is on the trainers to qualify their runner for the Derby , maybe Sword In Stones connections rolled the dice and went in with just the 4 runs and have only just come up short of making the field.

Maybe it is a run too soon for him but overall I think most years the Derby field sorts itself out ,connections opted not to run in Avondale Guineas which theoretically would have returned a cheque and therefore made the field.

Don't think it's time to push the panic button , you think you can win the Derby , make sure you qualify !

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10 hours ago, Kihikihi Kid said:

Maybe , just maybe , the onus is on the trainers to qualify their runner for the Derby , maybe Sword In Stones connections rolled the dice and went in with just the 4 runs and have only just come up short of making the field.

Maybe it is a run too soon for him but overall I think most years the Derby field sorts itself out ,connections opted not to run in Avondale Guineas which theoretically would have returned a cheque and therefore made the field.

Don't think it's time to push the panic button , you think you can win the Derby , make sure you qualify !

9k Earnt by running 14th beats a 0.4L 3rd in a Group 2?

yea na

Hawkes Bay had similar problems with their qualifying protocols...

they changed to preferring certain Black Type form

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Platinum Invader very unlucky not to win with the ride that Johnson gave him, such a negative rider in such a big race and he should have won with an ounce of clear running.

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  • 2 weeks later...

So the connections of SIS are still having trouble getting over it...

The Ellerslie 'Committee' should call a special meeting and change the conditions while it's still fresh in their crazy cotton pickin minds 

Regardless of what happens over the next few weeks, Brennan is still coming to terms with the disappointment of Sword In Stone missing a start in the Gr.1 New Zealand Derby (2400m) despite being stakes-placed in his final lead-up run.
 
“I was gutted he didn’t get into the race and I’m still feeling it now,” she said.
 
“He was cherry ripe for the race and had drawn perfectly in barrier one. He would probably have enjoyed a lovely, economical run on the fence and I think he would have proved very competitive.
 
“To be Group Two placed and still only second on the ballot doesn’t seem right as I definitely think he should have made the field.
 
“We can’t change it now though, so we have to look forward with him.” 
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46 minutes ago, Thomass said:

So the connections of SIS are still having trouble getting over it...

The Ellerslie 'Committee' should call a special meeting and change the conditions while it's still fresh in their crazy cotton pickin minds 

Regardless of what happens over the next few weeks, Brennan is still coming to terms with the disappointment of Sword In Stone missing a start in the Gr.1 New Zealand Derby (2400m) despite being stakes-placed in his final lead-up run.
 
“I was gutted he didn’t get into the race and I’m still feeling it now,” she said.
 
“He was cherry ripe for the race and had drawn perfectly in barrier one. He would probably have enjoyed a lovely, economical run on the fence and I think he would have proved very competitive.
 
“To be Group Two placed and still only second on the ballot doesn’t seem right as I definitely think he should have made the field.
 
“We can’t change it now though, so we have to look forward with him.” 

If he is that good then get on a plane to OZ.

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The rules were clear well before for everyone to work out.  They were going to battle to get in the field with only 3 races each a month apart leading into the Derby.  It's Grp 3 placing wasn't all that great a run either.

The form from the Guineas didn't carry into the Derby that well.

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42 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

The rules were clear well before for everyone to work out.  They were going to battle to get in the field with only 3 races each a month apart leading into the Derby.  It's Grp 3 placing wasn't all that great a run either.

The form from the Guineas didn't carry into the Derby that well.

The winner and the fourth horse in the Derby both came out of it.

 

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41 minutes ago, All The Aces said:

The winner and the fourth horse in the Derby both came out of it.

 

Good points....and CP drew the dreaded ace..Ace...

Got shuffled back to near last then battled away well...

...needing the Blinkers back on...not a lot of people hold that in any great stead for some reason...

...perhaps they've listened to Neville no names on here

"prove it makes them go faster...Redzel doesn't need them"

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40 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

True but based on its performance in the Guineas I'm guessing you like the rest of the population didn't rate its performance hence $105 dividend.

 

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

The rules were clear well before for everyone to work out.  They were going to battle to get in the field with only 3 races each a month apart leading into the Derby.  It's Grp 3 placing wasn't all that great a run either.

The form from the Guineas didn't carry into the Derby that well.

Why would your mates at the ARC give the G2 Avondale direct entries but not the G 2 Waikato??

And then connections of SIS get confused when the plonker 'Suits' like Craig Baker allow 14th money in a Restricted to count?

Explain that champ....

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1 minute ago, Thomass said:

 

Why would your mates at the ARC give the G2 Avondale direct entries but not the G 2 Waikato??

And then connections of SIS get confused when the plonker 'Suits' like Craig Baker allow 14th money in a Restricted to count?

Explain that champ....

The entry and balloting rules were clear.  

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