Rain,

[Joe Kidd]

the great equalizer.

Some of the best horses going around tonight struggled in the conditions. Some of those still managed to win. Class.

Surprised to see Enhance Your Calm get rolled. No finger pointing at the driver from me. Horse didn't cop the track and was exhausted. Can't pick them up and carry them. Mark Purdon does not go to sleep on them especially in highly sought after races. Dry track and it wins by a street.

The trotting champs were a disappointment to me. Glad to see Speeding Spur do the business but the track turned that race into an ordinary affair where two of the best horses in the race struggled with the conditions most of the way.. 

One Change may be just a bit special. Didn't cop the track but still win the Welcome Stakes impressively. 

Turn It Up didn't enjoy the conditions but still won the Easter Cup. What beats this horse in the NZ Cup wins that race in November. 

Ultimate Sniper did what Ultimate Sniper does....when Tim Williams is not driving it   

U May Collect won the last like it was the most exciting pacer to come from the deep South for a decade. 

 

 

[retarded driver]

3 hours ago, Joe Kidd said:

the great equalizer.

Some of the best horses going around tonight struggled in the conditions. Some of those still managed to win. Class.

Surprised to see Enhance Your Calm get rolled. No finger pointing at the driver from me. Horse didn't cop the track and was exhausted. Can't pick them up and carry them. Mark Purdon does not go to sleep on them especially in highly sought after races. Dry track and it wins by a street.

The trotting champs were a disappointment to me. Glad to see Speeding Spur do the business but the track turned that race into an ordinary affair where two of the best horses in the race struggled with the conditions most of the way.. 

One Change may be just a bit special. Didn't cop the track but still win the Welcome Stakes impressively. 

Turn It Up didn't enjoy the conditions but still won the Easter Cup. What beats this horse in the NZ Cup wins that race in November. 

Ultimate Sniper did what Ultimate Sniper does....when Tim Williams is not driving it   

U May Collect won the last like it was the most exciting pacer to come from the deep South for a decade. 

 

 

grand delusions come to mind.watch the replay stupid.he GOT CAUGHT NAPPING!!!

[retarded driver]

u may collect will be in the usa very soon.owner says wont sell but money talks.nz trots is a sinking ship

[Joe Kidd]

4 hours ago, retarded driver said:

grand delusions come to mind.watch the replay stupid.he GOT CAUGHT NAPPING!!!

Morning shitheel. you're a brave wee thing aren't you...but are you just a wee boy who only talks a big game when mum lets you back on her computer on the conditions you stay away from the gay porn and cross dressing sites? How insightful were you when choosing your user name.

I was watching race replays before your father wanked onto the barn door resulting in his load hatching out in the sun announcing your arrival on the planet. 

I looked forward to last nights meeting for weeks and spent several days studying the form for a serious night out on the punt. I checked out flights to go down to Christchurch and rang a good mate to arrange catching up. He said the weather forecast was shite and I pulled the plug. I never wagered a dollar last night. Most serious punters will not "invest" when a meeting turns from predictable to a lottery due to track conditions.

You are clearly in desperate need of heads up in reading race replays. MP knew exactly how the horse felt in it's prelim and unlike you, known how it was copping the track. Using up gas to get the front from wide out was not just about controlling the race. MP knew it was his best hope in overcoming the conditions. Go back to the top of the straight. Enhance Your Calm may look the winner but look deeper. There's very little left in the tank. Then look at the eventual winner Lotamusle. Has done no work from the draw and looks to be not bothered by the conditions at all. Before the turn even blind Freddy can see Lotamusle is going to be at least a threat to the trailing horse Tricky Rick with clear running. Purdon tries to put them away turning in but used what the horse had left to establish that break. It also opened things up for Lotamusle when One Apollo started to tire. 

150 out Mark Purdon looks to have won the race but look at Enhance The Calm's leg speed at that moment and compare it with Lotamusle. Despite you being a far king genius in the game you need to understand that the eyes of drivers are in the front of their head. For MP to have seen how well Lotamusle was going would have needed him to near fall out of the cart trying to look behind. 

100 out MP has a look to the left. Nothing there. He has a look to the right, nothing there either. 70 metres out MP hears a horse closing in on him. He tries to lift the horse one last time but Enhance Your Calm is out of gas. Lotamusle has the momentum. There was absolutely nothing MP could have done more or better to win the race inside the last 200 regardless of what some eggspurts like you say. With the benefit of hindsight perhaps MP should have kept things tight turning in but he tried to win the race. I was surprised to see Enhance Your Calm get rolled especially in a race the AS wanted very much but it's my opinion that the conditions beat him as much as Lotamusle. 

The biggest surprise to me was coming on here and reading calls for Mark Purdon to be suspended for the drive. Bloody ridiculous especially from a bloke who I have fully agreed with many times over the years. Having a different perspective is fine and dandy but calling for a suspension for that drive is the most absurd thing I've read on an online harness forum for at least a decade. Back in your hole...boy

 

https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=261214

[Flagship uberalles]

11 hours ago, Joe Kidd said:

the great equalizer.

Some of the best horses going around tonight struggled in the conditions. Some of those still managed to win. Class.

Surprised to see Enhance Your Calm get rolled. No finger pointing at the driver from me. Horse didn't cop the track and was exhausted. Can't pick them up and carry them. Mark Purdon does not go to sleep on them especially in highly sought after races. Dry track and it wins by a street.

The trotting champs were a disappointment to me. Glad to see Speeding Spur do the business but the track turned that race into an ordinary affair where two of the best horses in the race struggled with the conditions most of the way.. 

One Change may be just a bit special. Didn't cop the track but still win the Welcome Stakes impressively. 

Turn It Up didn't enjoy the conditions but still won the Easter Cup. What beats this horse in the NZ Cup wins that race in November. 

Ultimate Sniper did what Ultimate Sniper does....when Tim Williams is not driving it   

U May Collect won the last like it was the most exciting pacer to come from the deep South for a decade. 

 

 

Was a shame about the weather, some of the best fields for a while....that umay collect is really exciting, the deep south has a habit of unearthing great talent every so often really hope it does stay in NZ, we need the good ones to stick around.

[the galah]

The interesting thing is did the change in track conditions effect the results.

8 of the 10 winners raced handy on the fence,while the 2 that didn't came from 1 back and 2 back the outside in races where the leaders went 2 fast  early.. The pattern was  its hard to make any ground from the back,but would that have been the case anyway?

Personally I think generally its  more important to get handy early without over doing it,.

[Joe Kidd]

29 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said:

Was a shame about the weather, some of the best fields for a while....that umay collect is really exciting, the deep south has a habit of unearthing great talent every so often really hope it does stay in NZ, we need the good ones to stick around.

I don't mind the rain on average race days but on Premier days / nights it most definitely negatively impacts on things.

Must be honest and admit I'm not the biggest fan of U May Collects driver yet she's done a great job. Without wishing to impugn her skills, one has to wonder how good this horse would be in a stable like the AS for example.

Impossible to see how it could have been more impressive than it's been so far.  

[Joe Kidd]

19 minutes ago, the galah said:

The interesting thing is did the change in track conditions effect the results.

8 of the 10 winners raced handy on the fence,while the 2 that didn't came from 1 back and 2 back the outside in races where the leaders went 2 fast  early.. The pattern was  its hard to make any ground from the back,but would that have been the case anyway?

Personally I think generally its  more important to get handy early without over doing it,.

I see things differently Galah.

I'm 100% certain the track had a significant effect on numerous runners. Mud is a great leveler on a race track. 

Here's a few I can recall without even trying. Coincidentally, most of the horses I will quote are AS runners.

Enhance The Calm would have won by panels had the track been dry. 

Letterkenny Boy had most of it's weapons negated by the track. Compare last night to it's previous run.

Kings Landing and Marcoola had most of their weapons negated in the big trot.

The Power of Prayer never copped the track in the Welcome Stakes but was ready to stand up. Watch for a big form reversal next start.

Spankem not the same horse in the Easter Cup. I don't feel Jacks Legend copped the track when it mattered either.

The trot won by Sunny Glenis was a lucky dip. Several of the well fancied runners were no hope.

Race patterns can be a good guide but just when you think they can be budgeted on, a back runner will do the business. If a horse is copping the wet track you'd expect to see it handy but just because you're handy, you can still be gone in a stride as many were. 

For me, a great night....not to bet. 

 

[OLDWHITEMAN]

31 minutes ago, Joe Kidd said:

I see things differently Galah.

[clipped}

The trot won by Sunny Glenis was a lucky dip. Several of the well fancied runners were no hope.

Race patterns can be a good guide but just when you think they can be budgeted on, a back runner will do the business. If a horse is copping the wet track you'd expect to see it handy but just because you're handy, you can still be gone in a stride as many were. 

For me, a great night....not to bet. 

 

The Sunny Glenis run is a good guide to the track conditions on the night... they were poor at best. This mare is a noted wet grass track performer and last night was right up her alley. She has been racing consistently lately but has never performed well at Addington. She was helped by the No. 1 draw which meant she did nothing during the run while the runner-up Globe Trekker started from 10m and lived up to its name by covering extra ground. Sunny Glennis also came on the strip of track about four or five carts out... a number of winners, including Lotamuscle, used the same strip. 

I didn't bet either but enjoyed the races I watched.

[Brodie]

3 hours ago, Joe Kidd said:

Morning shitheel. you're a brave wee thing aren't you...but are you just a wee boy who only talks a big game when mum lets you back on her computer on the conditions you stay away from the gay porn and cross dressing sites? How insightful were you when choosing your user name.

I was watching race replays before your father wanked onto the barn door resulting in his load hatching out in the sun announcing your arrival on the planet. 

I looked forward to last nights meeting for weeks and spent several days studying the form for a serious night out on the punt. I checked out flights to go down to Christchurch and rang a good mate to arrange catching up. He said the weather forecast was shite and I pulled the plug. I never wagered a dollar last night. Most serious punters will not "invest" when a meeting turns from predictable to a lottery due to track conditions.

You are clearly in desperate need of heads up in reading race replays. MP knew exactly how the horse felt in it's prelim and unlike you, known how it was copping the track. Using up gas to get the front from wide out was not just about controlling the race. MP knew it was his best hope in overcoming the conditions. Go back to the top of the straight. Enhance Your Calm may look the winner but look deeper. There's very little left in the tank. Then look at the eventual winner Lotamusle. Has done no work from the draw and looks to be not bothered by the conditions at all. Before the turn even blind Freddy can see Lotamusle is going to be at least a threat to the trailing horse Tricky Rick with clear running. Purdon tries to put them away turning in but used what the horse had left to establish that break. It also opened things up for Lotamusle when One Apollo started to tire. 

150 out Mark Purdon looks to have won the race but look at Enhance The Calm's leg speed at that moment and compare it with Lotamusle. Despite you being a far king genius in the game you need to understand that the eyes of drivers are in the front of their head. For MP to have seen how well Lotamusle was going would have needed him to near fall out of the cart trying to look behind. 

100 out MP has a look to the left. Nothing there. He has a look to the right, nothing there either. 70 metres out MP hears a horse closing in on him. He tries to lift the horse one last time but Enhance Your Calm is out of gas. Lotamusle has the momentum. There was absolutely nothing MP could have done more or better to win the race inside the last 200 regardless of what some eggspurts like you say. With the benefit of hindsight perhaps MP should have kept things tight turning in but he tried to win the race. I was surprised to see Enhance Your Calm get rolled especially in a race the AS wanted very much but it's my opinion that the conditions beat him as much as Lotamusle. 

The biggest surprise to me was coming on here and reading calls for Mark Purdon to be suspended for the drive. Bloody ridiculous especially from a bloke who I have fully agreed with many times over the years. Having a different perspective is fine and dandy but calling for a suspension for that drive is the most absurd thing I've read on an online harness forum for at least a decade. Back in your hole...boy

 

https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=261214

John, agree with many of your points but not all!

Dont agree that the driver of Enhance Your Calm did everything to ensure that his horse won, and that is why I beleive he should have received a fine at the very least!

He was probably the shortest priced favourite on the night and was beaten!

Yes the track was wet, which is a great leveller!

However, the horse was by far the best horse in the field and would’ve won on a dry track as we both know!

The horse was tired in the straight we can clearly see that, however the horse needed to have the persuader used well before it was, after Mark sees Bob Butt coming fast!

It was a error in judgement by Mark Purdon on this occasion which I suggest is very rare indeed!

Punters got badly burnt and due to a poor error in judgement so at least deserved to be fined!

The irony is that drivers are fined for trying hard to win by using the whip in excess of 10 times.

Bob Butt who wins the race for all the connections gets hammered by fine and suspension and yet Mark Purdon Who erred in judgement, gets off scot free!!!!!

Absolute BS!

Edited April 5, 2019 by Brodie

[retarded driver]

4 hours ago, Joe Kidd said:

Morning shitheel. you're a brave wee thing aren't you...but are you just a wee boy who only talks a big game when mum lets you back on her computer on the conditions you stay away from the gay porn and cross dressing sites? How insightful were you when choosing your user name.

I was watching race replays before your father wanked onto the barn door resulting in his load hatching out in the sun announcing your arrival on the planet. 

I looked forward to last nights meeting for weeks and spent several days studying the form for a serious night out on the punt. I checked out flights to go down to Christchurch and rang a good mate to arrange catching up. He said the weather forecast was shite and I pulled the plug. I never wagered a dollar last night. Most serious punters will not "invest" when a meeting turns from predictable to a lottery due to track conditions.

You are clearly in desperate need of heads up in reading race replays. MP knew exactly how the horse felt in it's prelim and unlike you, known how it was copping the track. Using up gas to get the front from wide out was not just about controlling the race. MP knew it was his best hope in overcoming the conditions. Go back to the top of the straight. Enhance Your Calm may look the winner but look deeper. There's very little left in the tank. Then look at the eventual winner Lotamusle. Has done no work from the draw and looks to be not bothered by the conditions at all. Before the turn even blind Freddy can see Lotamusle is going to be at least a threat to the trailing horse Tricky Rick with clear running. Purdon tries to put them away turning in but used what the horse had left to establish that break. It also opened things up for Lotamusle when One Apollo started to tire. 

150 out Mark Purdon looks to have won the race but look at Enhance The Calm's leg speed at that moment and compare it with Lotamusle. Despite you being a far king genius in the game you need to understand that the eyes of drivers are in the front of their head. For MP to have seen how well Lotamusle was going would have needed him to near fall out of the cart trying to look behind. 

100 out MP has a look to the left. Nothing there. He has a look to the right, nothing there either. 70 metres out MP hears a horse closing in on him. He tries to lift the horse one last time but Enhance Your Calm is out of gas. Lotamusle has the momentum. There was absolutely nothing MP could have done more or better to win the race inside the last 200 regardless of what some eggspurts like you say. With the benefit of hindsight perhaps MP should have kept things tight turning in but he tried to win the race. I was surprised to see Enhance Your Calm get rolled especially in a race the AS wanted very much but it's my opinion that the conditions beat him as much as Lotamusle. 

The biggest surprise to me was coming on here and reading calls for Mark Purdon to be suspended for the drive. Bloody ridiculous especially from a bloke who I have fully agreed with many times over the years. Having a different perspective is fine and dandy but calling for a suspension for that drive is the most absurd thing I've read on an online harness forum for at least a decade. Back in your hole...boy

 

https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=261214

reported post for abuse KID

[retarded driver]

37 minutes ago, Brodie said:

John, agree with many of your points but not all!

Dont agree that the driver of Enhance Your Calm did everything to ensure that his horse won, and that is why I beleive he should have received a fine at the very least!

He was probably the shortest priced favourite on the night and was beaten!

Yes the track was wet, which is a great leveller!

However, the horse was by far the best horse in the field and would’ve won on a dry track as we both know!

The horse was tired in the straight we can clearly see that, however the horse needed to have the persuader used well before it was, after Mark sees Bob Butt coming fast!

It was a error in judgement by Mark Purdon on this occasion which I suggest is very rare indeed!

Punters got badly burnt and due to a poor error in judgement so at least deserved to be fined!

The irony is that drivers are fined for trying hard to win by using the whip in excess of 10 times.

Bob Butt who wins the race for all the connections gets hammered by fine and suspension and yet Mark Purdon Who erred in judgement, gets off scot free!!!!!

Absolute BS!

you say everything i want to say but with class.you must be very well educated where mine is all gambling including POKER since 13 so nearly 30 years!i love the france trots and have tried to help you kiwis in urging nztab to cover the good meetings from france trots

[Brodie]

13 minutes ago, retarded driver said:

you say everything i want to say but with class.you must be very well educated where mine is all gambling including POKER since 13 so nearly 30 years!i love the france trots and have tried to help you kiwis in urging nztab to cover the good meetings from france trots

Yes, Brodie has got the class, Rangatira and CrossCodes etc. will agree with you!

Everyone writes differently, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Not too sure whether we actually need more racing from overseas to wager on, would prefer they cut out the crap meetings from overseas and concentrated on the NZ product!

 

[retarded driver]

4 hours ago, Joe Kidd said:

Morning shitheel. you're a brave wee thing aren't you...but are you just a wee boy who only talks a big game when mum lets you back on her computer on the conditions you stay away from the gay porn and cross dressing sites? How insightful were you when choosing your user name.

I was watching race replays before your father wanked onto the barn door resulting in his load hatching out in the sun announcing your arrival on the planet. 

I looked forward to last nights meeting for weeks and spent several days studying the form for a serious night out on the punt. I checked out flights to go down to Christchurch and rang a good mate to arrange catching up. He said the weather forecast was shite and I pulled the plug. I never wagered a dollar last night. Most serious punters will not "invest" when a meeting turns from predictable to a lottery due to track conditions.

You are clearly in desperate need of heads up in reading race replays. MP knew exactly how the horse felt in it's prelim and unlike you, known how it was copping the track. Using up gas to get the front from wide out was not just about controlling the race. MP knew it was his best hope in overcoming the conditions. Go back to the top of the straight. Enhance Your Calm may look the winner but look deeper. There's very little left in the tank. Then look at the eventual winner Lotamusle. Has done no work from the draw and looks to be not bothered by the conditions at all. Before the turn even blind Freddy can see Lotamusle is going to be at least a threat to the trailing horse Tricky Rick with clear running. Purdon tries to put them away turning in but used what the horse had left to establish that break. It also opened things up for Lotamusle when One Apollo started to tire. 

150 out Mark Purdon looks to have won the race but look at Enhance The Calm's leg speed at that moment and compare it with Lotamusle. Despite you being a far king genius in the game you need to understand that the eyes of drivers are in the front of their head. For MP to have seen how well Lotamusle was going would have needed him to near fall out of the cart trying to look behind. 

100 out MP has a look to the left. Nothing there. He has a look to the right, nothing there either. 70 metres out MP hears a horse closing in on him. He tries to lift the horse one last time but Enhance Your Calm is out of gas. Lotamusle has the momentum. There was absolutely nothing MP could have done more or better to win the race inside the last 200 regardless of what some eggspurts like you say. With the benefit of hindsight perhaps MP should have kept things tight turning in but he tried to win the race. I was surprised to see Enhance Your Calm get rolled especially in a race the AS wanted very much but it's my opinion that the conditions beat him as much as Lotamusle. 

The biggest surprise to me was coming on here and reading calls for Mark Purdon to be suspended for the drive. Bloody ridiculous especially from a bloke who I have fully agreed with many times over the years. Having a different perspective is fine and dandy but calling for a suspension for that drive is the most absurd thing I've read on an online harness forum for at least a decade. Back in your hole...boy

 

https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=261214

if thats what you think about human life it puts you in the same category as the nz massacre shooting guy.maybe someone really neeeds to report you to nz govt dept KID

[Joe Kidd]

57 minutes ago, Brodie said:

John, agree with many of your points but not all!

Dont agree that the driver of Enhance Your Calm did everything to ensure that his horse won, and that is why I beleive he should have received a fine at the very least!

He was probably the shortest priced favourite on the night and was beaten!

Yes the track was wet, which is a great leveller!

However, the horse was by far the best horse in the field and would’ve won on a dry track as we both know!

The horse was tired in the straight we can clearly see that, however the horse needed to have the persuader used well before it was, after Mark sees Bob Butt coming fast!

It was a error in judgement by Mark Purdon on this occasion which I suggest is very rare indeed!

Punters got badly burnt and due to a poor error in judgement so at least deserved to be fined!

The irony is that drivers are fined for trying hard to win by using the whip in excess of 10 times.

Bob Butt who wins the race for all the connections gets hammered by fine and suspension and yet Mark Purdon Who erred in judgement, gets off scot free!!!!!

Absolute BS!

John?

Talk of fining or suspending MP for that drive is off the charts Brodie. I'm genuinely shocked you would advocate that. As you know I've been critical of AS dominance but I saw absolutely nothing to be critical of with that drive. Yes, clearly the hottest favourite of the night but as you know there are a lot of punters who just see a picket line and are certain more of the same is coming regardless of track conditions. The best horse in the race by a cricket pitch but as you rightly say, a wet track is a great leveler. You've seen MP driving for years. He doesn't knock his drives about. 99 times out of 100 his drive would have been a winning drive. The track was the difference along with a great run by the eventual winner who had been quietly smoking the pipe and was also very well driven.

As for punters getting burn't. It's called "Gambing" for a bloody good reason Brodie. Having said that, I see dozens of driver errors every week. Some much worse than others. The only error MP made was not winning but I can't see what he could have done better to win. That's why he wasn't charged or penalized in my not so humble opinion. When a horse has given it's best and is out of gas there is not a lot you can do, especially if you still want a horse the next day. 

[OLDWHITEMAN]

12 minutes ago, Brodie said:

[self adulation clipped]

Not too sure whether we actually need more racing from overseas to wager on, would prefer they cut out the crap meetings from overseas and concentrated on the NZ product!

 

Good grief... for once I agree with you Brodie. Far too much crap offshore racing on offer by TAB. Stick to NZ made.

[Brodie]

3 minutes ago, OLDWHITEMAN said:

Good grief... for once I agree with you Brodie. Far too much crap offshore racing on offer by TAB. Stick to NZ made.

Truth is that you agree with Brodie all the time,  but you like to disagree to upset this forum!

[Brodie]

7 minutes ago, Joe Kidd said:

John?

Talk of fining or suspending MP for that drive is off the charts Brodie. I'm genuinely shocked you would advocate that. As you know I've been critical of AS dominance but I saw absolutely nothing to be critical of with that drive. Yes, clearly the hottest favourite of the night but as you know there are a lot of punters who just see a picket line and are certain more of the same is coming regardless of track conditions. The best horse in the race by a cricket pitch but as you rightly say, a wet track is a great leveler. You've seen MP driving for years. He doesn't knock his drives about. 99 times out of 100 his drive would have been a winning drive. The track was the difference along with a great run by the eventual winner who had been quietly smoking the pipe and was also very well driven.

As for punters getting burn't. It's called "Gambing" for a bloody good reason Brodie. Having said that, I see dozens of driver errors every week. Some much worse than others. The only error MP made was not winning but I can't see what he could have done better to win. That's why he wasn't charged or penalized in my not so humble opinion. When a horse has given it's best and is out of gas there is not a lot you can do, especially if you still want a horse the next day. 

Apologies Joe, for changing your name.

Agree to disagree in regards to Mark Purdons drive.

If he had shown the horse the whip earlier, he just wins, as he left it far too late to bet Enhance Your Calm to respond on the wet track!

As I say, the ironic thing here is that the winning driver Bob Butt who tried harder to win the race, gets hammered by the judiciary!

The driver that should’ve won the race and didn’t try hard enough, gets off scot free and the punter gets hammered!!!

This is why this whip rule is an absolute farce, and needs changing!

Bob Butt should not have been penalised whatsoever and Mr Purdon deserved to be penalised!!

Edited April 6, 2019 by Brodie

[Flagship uberalles]

Yes French trotting is the best in the world, but I wouldn't like to see it bet on in the tab here, easy enough to open an account with the French pmu and better betting into their pools.... the American crap they are pushing down our throats is a joke we don't need that!

[Flagship uberalles]

16 minutes ago, retarded driver said:

if thats what you think about human life it puts you in the same category as the nz massacre shooting guy.maybe someone really neeeds to report you to nz govt dept KID

Harden up r.t a bit drastic, enough lefty's killing free speech already.

[Joe Kidd]

13 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Apologies Joe, for changing your name.

Agree to disagree in regards to Mark Purdons drive.

If he had shown the horse the whip earlier, he just wins, as he left it far too late to bet Enhance Your Calm to respond on the wet track!

As I say, the ironic thing here is that the winning driver Bob Butt who tried harder to win the race, gets hammered by the judiciary!

The driver that should’ve won the race and didn’t try hard enough, gets off scot free and the punter gets hammered!!!

This is why this whip rule is an absolute farce, and needs changing!

Bob Butt should not have been penalised whatsoever and Mr Purdon deserved to be penalised!!

Chur  

[Joe Kidd]

30 minutes ago, retarded driver said:

if thats what you think about human life it puts you in the same category as the nz massacre shooting guy.maybe someone really neeeds to report you to nz govt dept KID

OMG...get help. There may still be time but based on your statement here, it's likely already too late. 

[Joe Kidd]

15 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said:

Yes French trotting is the best in the world, but I wouldn't like to see it bet on in the tab here, easy enough to open an account with the French pmu and better betting into their pools.... the American crap they are pushing down our throats is a joke we don't need that!

I love the French harness. Went to two meetings there several years ago and it made our trotting look antiquated to say the least.

As for the American shite being served up here. I honestly believe it's wrong on every level. It encourages the compulsive gamblers, the product is almost always low grade crap and it gives less time for better coverage of races that matter. My mindset is do it well or don't do it at all. One of my favourite quotes was the work of Abraham Lincoln.

"Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe"

[hunterthepunter]

what I would like to no is retarded driver a x retarded Ozzie driver???

[globederby12]

5 hours ago, Joe Kidd said:

Must be honest and admit I'm not the biggest fan of U May Collects driver yet she's done a great job. Without wishing to impugn her skills, one has to wonder how good this horse would be in a stable like the AS for example.

 

To be honest Joe this horse could have (pardon the pun) a retarded driver on it and it would still win. What a clean gaited animal and acceleration ,geeze, just breathtaking. Second up he wins by 7 on his ear running a 1.52 mile rate. Dearly love him to stay here in NZ.

As per Kings Landing, he got caught flatfooted at the top of the straight. If the track was soft on the inside then he has an excuse ,of sorts, but he still doesn't float my boat.  Now that Sundees Son has hit his straps somewhat, and could be the elephant in the room come  the Jewels , we have an interesting race coming up.