bamboozla Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I see the fields are drawn for Thursday, anyone spot the odd dog out? Might need to remove the blinkers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Presuming you are talking about the C1 blinker wearing Barrel Runner? This dogs chasing habits aside (or lack there of), the NZ cup and Galaxy (all major cup races actually) should be for dogs who have earned there way to the top. There is no way C1 and C2 dogs should be in there making up the fields, it should be C5 runners only with C4’s making up the fields and that’s it. Id be highly pissed if I had a hard chasing C5 dog that got run off or interfered with by a non-chasing or green C1 or C2 dog, in fact I’d be livid. Lets hope this doesn’t eventuate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Agree, this should not be a race for a 26-1-15 dog. It's maiden win was over 295M, nearly 6 months ago, by a nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinggreys Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, CrossCodes said: Presuming you are talking about the C1 blinker wearing Barrel Runner? This dogs chasing habits aside (or lack there of), the NZ cup and Galaxy (all major cup races actually) should be for dogs who have earned there way to the top. There is no way C1 and C2 dogs should be in there making up the fields, it should be C5 runners only with C4’s making up the fields and that’s it. Id be highly pissed if I had a hard chasing C5 dog that got run off or interfered with by a non-chasing or green C1 or C2 dog, in fact I’d be livid. Lets hope this doesn’t eventuate. Surley its about the best and not just making up heat after heat just because you get the noms. Look at the galaxy, a full race meeting of heats!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozla Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 I don't really have a problem with very talented lower grade dogs having a go and this dog obviously has more ability than it's record suggests, but it rather sets a low bar. Personally I think there should be a specification that entering group race heats over middle distance all greyhounds must have at least won 2 starts over a middle distance or at least competed over a suitable distance in the 21 days proceeding the event. This would avoid this kind of situation or when we get sprinters lined up in races like the NZ Oaks which cause havoc on occasion. I am not knocking the trainer or connections, they have the right to nominate as the rules stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The Freeman runners on track tonight look absolutely awful, presentation wise and so far racing wise. A former big race trainer who can’t even compete in any decent races these days, a big fall from the top. Not sure why he even bothered going down South with the way his kennel is going, very sad really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 What a ridiculous comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozza Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, CrossCodes said: The Freeman runners on track tonight look absolutely awful, presentation wise and so far racing wise. A former big race trainer who can’t even compete in any decent races these days, a big fall from the top. Not sure why he even bothered going down South with the way his kennel is going, very sad really. Someone lost their pocket money tonight. A stupid thing to say about a man who I don't see training any dogs anymore. But how good of a trainer is that Angela Turnwald keeping Nature's Gent competitive since 1976 A nice 2nd place cheque along with his pension this week and he's back for another Semi Final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Barrel Runner tee-boning Dyna Dave, instead of having a munch at the lure, in the catching area. Edited October 31, 2019 by Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Freeman was leading group 1 trainer in CD last year ...Helping Wangnui getting back on track NOW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fur que Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Yankiwi said: Barrel Runner tee-boning Dyna Dave, instead of having a munch at the lure, in the catching area. Nothing at all better to do than be negative ??? Some great races those heats tonight but not a positive word comes from ur key board . Sad really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 58 minutes ago, fur que said: Nothing at all better to do than be negative ??? Some great races those heats tonight but not a positive word comes from ur key board . Sad really I didn't maul Dyna Dave, Barrel Runner did. That's not being negative, it's telling the truth & being realistic. You might also want to note that it is on subject with where the thread started, unlike your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 And Kamada Park and Hot Platter both felt the pinch tonight, especially the latter who was down to a walk. Beaten by a much better trainer, the days of a Freeman runner winning a big race are long gone. Maybe he needs Aleisha Speight back in the country to give him a hand (or another orifice) in the Palmy raceway toilet block like many of us used to witness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Cross codes give it a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Backed Barrel Runner last week for a place, took the 3's on the fixed. Recon he will run a place tomorrow, but you won't get 3's again. Feel sorry for Robson having the Barrel next to him, it will be heart in the mouth stuff for a good part of the race me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 45 minutes ago, CrossCodes said: And Kamada Park and Hot Platter both felt the pinch tonight, especially the latter who was down to a walk. Beaten by a much better trainer, the days of a Freeman runner winning a big race are long gone. Maybe he needs Aleisha Speight back in the country to give him a hand (or another orifice) in the Palmy raceway toilet block like many of us used to witness. So are you willing to list your dogs so we can see how good a trainer you are.I doubt it blow bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, CrossCodes said: And Kamada Park and Hot Platter both felt the pinch tonight, especially the latter who was down to a walk. Beaten by a much better trainer, the days of a Freeman runner winning a big race are long gone. Maybe he needs Aleisha Speight back in the country to give him a hand (or another orifice) in the Palmy raceway toilet block like many of us used to witness. Jesus he still ran 2nd. How many group 1 placed dogs have you trained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozza Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Too easy. We'll done Ange, Paul and team. An incredible achievement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Yes, and judging from pinny macks time, was a great time two a win and a third in 2 nz cup heats is great going thus far Edited November 6, 2019 by BitofaLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Hey Top Dog, Quirk, or whoever is resting tonight up in the tower, the #8 needs a holiday after tonight's run. Above is a head turn. A bit further on in the video this dog is very lucky it didn't kill itself, the #5, the #2 (from getting on heals of the commotion the #8 caused) or any combination of the three of them. How about you do the right thing & charge this dog for FTP. It's your duty to do so & the righteous thing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONSTA Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Should betting patterns be taken into account when deciding what dogs get swabbed? By far the biggest go of the night on Betfair was in the last on the winner who never looked like getting beat. Obviously the smart $ as over 20k matched on the race with 90+% of that on the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONSTA Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Also how pathetic is it that we still can’t manage the simple duty of swabbing ALL heat winners and even all dogs that finish top 2 and made the final. Just can’t get my head around it personally. The aussies put our judicial system to shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 6 hours ago, GONSTA said: Should betting patterns be taken into account when deciding what dogs get swabbed? By far the biggest go of the night on Betfair was in the last on the winner who never looked like getting beat. Obviously the smart $ as over 20k matched on the race with 90+% of that on the winner. I'm picking that the RIU either don't pay any attention or simply ignore betting patterns from "leakage". I doubt they are even clued up enough to examine NZ TAB betting patterns properly! <Did the trainer or owner punt the family farm in the fixed odds market> Yes - Wow, they were very daring. No - No unusual betting patterns. <Investigation closed> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Yankiwi said: How about you do the right thing & charge this dog for FTP. It's your duty to do so & the righteous thing as well. Well top dog has turned a blind eye in this instance. He's failed in his duty to uphold integrity. He's failed to hold welfare as paramount (in future races). He's likely identified another favoured trainer to those with a keen eye. https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/13752/stewards-report.aspx UTHOR BALE (8) - awkwardly placed to the outside of DIDDILEE rounding the first bend being turned outwards as a consequence,losing ground and severely checking OPAWA TODDY. This is not awkwardly placed outside of the #5. This is not being turned outwards as a consequence. That was turning to the inner and marring the #5 dog. The dogs head positions & their tails tell the story. Favoritism, at the expense of integrity & welfare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Well spotted Yani. Another fighting cheat imported to bolster the ranks of blinkered dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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