Mehe Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 I think the tab should start a pick 6 at 1 million dollars nothing less with 2 gallop races, 2 troting races and,2 dog races and it jackpots like lotto every week Once it jackpots like lotto can do very quickly they will be happy little campers to think of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mehe said: I think the tab should start a pick 6 at 1 million dollars nothing less with 2 gallop races, 2 troting races and,2 dog races and it jackpots like lotto every week Once it jackpots like lotto can do very quickly they will be happy little campers to think of that Mehe, why have it over the 3 codes? Why would harness punters want to be offloading into dogs and gallops? I note that they seem to have gone off putting up the drivers head to heads Edited June 27, 2020 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 I don't know if the NZ TAB could afford to run a million dollar Pick6 every week. I also don't know why they are reluctant to have regular, terminating Pick6's. Many punters love the terminating ones. The uptake of a terminating Pick6 is usually a lot higher than the stock standard ones. What I do know is that NZ TAB decision makers tend to not favour Pick6's as it "ties up money" during the Pick6 races, and they fear the "opportunity cost" of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Rusty said: I don't know if the NZ TAB could afford to run a million dollar Pick6 every week. I also don't know why they are reluctant to have regular, terminating Pick6's. Many punters love the terminating ones. The uptake of a terminating Pick6 is usually a lot higher than the stock standard ones. What I do know is that NZ TAB decision makers tend to not favour Pick6's as it "ties up money" during the Pick6 races, and they fear the "opportunity cost" of this. I just seem to think people bet on what ever when the money is up lotto never have a promle to jackpot why would this and why 3 codes brodie if you do watch tv there are 3 codes that race and there are a hell of alot of trotting people who own dogs and bet on them Now Brodie please dont hijack this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With A Dream Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Rusty said: I don't know if the NZ TAB could afford to run a million dollar Pick6 every week. I also don't know why they are reluctant to have regular, terminating Pick6's. Many punters love the terminating ones. The uptake of a terminating Pick6 is usually a lot higher than the stock standard ones. What I do know is that NZ TAB decision makers tend to not favour Pick6's as it "ties up money" during the Pick6 races, and they fear the "opportunity cost" of this. Mehe is right, we need large jackpots to excite punters. Obviously the TAB can't afford to put the money up themselves, bit if we had a pick 9 instead of pick 6 we would get larger jackpots so no need for the TAB to fund it. I suspect you are correct that the TAB don't want Jackpots as it ties up funds for longer but I believe that is a big mistake.. . New funds will come into racing chasing the big jackpots, people will form syndicates as happened in the past. Just look what happens when lotto has a big pot. Like Brodie I have no interest in the other codes but can see advantages in running a jackpot across Gallops & Harness 1- On a Saturday it could be run on Invercargill Harness & Ellerslie for example thereby running it in a shorter time frame 2- Harness would then get an equal share of the turnover which would be helpful when accessing the distribution of funds to the codes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonkatime! Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, With A Dream said: Mehe is right, we need large jackpots to excite punters. Obviously the TAB can't afford to put the money up themselves, bit if we had a pick 9 instead of pick 6 we would get larger jackpots so no need for the TAB to fund it. I suspect you are correct that the TAB don't want Jackpots as it ties up funds for longer but I believe that is a big mistake.. . New funds will come into racing chasing the big jackpots, people will form syndicates as happened in the past. Just look what happens when lotto has a big pot. Like Brodie I have no interest in the other codes but can see advantages in running a jackpot across Gallops & Harness 1- On a Saturday it could be run on Invercargill Harness & Ellerslie for example thereby running it in a shorter time frame 2- Harness would then get an equal share of the turnover which would be helpful when accessing the distribution of funds to the codes. I remember in early 2000’s there was one on a Saturday that was for a million dollars. From memory it was reasonably well publicised and there were all sorts of people that you didn’t normally see in a tab takening them. Rugby and League pools was another one that use to attract interest when the jackpot got up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 Maybe i am wrong then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With A Dream Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Mehe said: Maybe i am wrong then Your basic premise is spot on Mehe. I have posted on another site a number of times about the need for large jackpots. I think I remember reading recently Ken Rutherford saying much the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Back in the day in the States, they had a "Twin Trifecta". They would pick two races on the program with one race separating the two (ie race 7 & race 9) where you had to pick the trifecta of both races to win the jackpot. So for each full unit trifecta winner of the first race (race 7) would be given a free voucher for an entry for selection of the second race (race 9). For example - A winning $24 box trifecta in the first race yields one voucher to select for the second race (similar to a $1 trifecta play). If you wanted target say 6 entries for the second race (to box 3 runners), you'd have to purchase 6 X $24 box trifecta in the first as in the above example. Edited July 1, 2020 by Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours ago, With A Dream said: Your basic premise is spot on Mehe. I have posted on another site a number of times about the need for large jackpots. I think I remember reading recently Ken Rutherford saying much the same thing. Haven't they tried this and didn't work? Triple Trio or something. I think TAB NZ should get back to the knitting first. Provide better information for the punter, fix their website, lower their takeout rates to be competitive with other agencies... That might stop the bleeding and maybe bring back those that have left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, Noodlum said: Haven't they tried this and didn't work? Triple Trio or something. I think TAB NZ should get back to the knitting first. Provide better information for the punter, fix their website, lower their takeout rates to be competitive with other agencies... That might stop the bleeding and maybe bring back those that have left. Noodlum your a good horse I dont think they have had a million dollar jackpot race that could say jackpot to 24million for example But if you put million dollar pick six that jackpots every week you will get people going to the tab and having ago at the pick six and well watching a few races will bet a few more dollars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Mehe said: Noodlum your a good horse I dont think they have had a million dollar jackpot race that could say jackpot to 24million for example But if you put million dollar pick six that jackpots every week you will get people going to the tab and having ago at the pick six and well watching a few races will bet a few more dollars The TABs are being closed! As Noodlum says, they need to sort their shit out first, or they wont have anyone coming thru to wager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Brodie said: The TABs are being closed! As Noodlum says, they need to sort their shit out first, or they wont have anyone coming thru to wager! Yes thanks for your expert information Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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