nomates Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just read that 3 promising fillies , 2 of them Stakes winners this spring , are transferring to C Wallers stable after the 1000 gns at Riccarton in a few weeks . Only Words , who is already there , Matchmaker and now Tinker McPhee , currently fav for the 1000 gns , have all seen majority shareholdings sold to clients of CW . A sad continuation of the drain of talent out of NZ , good luck to all the owners who sold can't blame them . This is one of the things that we need to reverse to some degree , will only happen if we have a strong and vibrant NZ racing industry . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 It has been going on for a while, and will only happen more and more. It's not just stakes - although, god knows, that is bad enough - but the programming and dates, and the pervading lack of professionalism, accountability, and the jobs-for-the- boys culture. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Have just read that yesterdays impressive maiden winner at Te Rapa , Explosively , has had a 50% sold to Aus interests and will be heading over there , and the 2000 gns runner up Boubonaire has been sold up to HK and heads straight up there . There was a time when they waited till the Autumn to raid our stocks but not anymore . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 The best and most ironic part is that " loveracing " are advertising these sales on their website . Here guys get a racehorse and see how much you could sell it off shore for , don't keep it here and race for peanuts . Brain numbing . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, nomates said: The best and most ironic part is that " loveracing " are advertising these sales on their website . Here guys get a racehorse and see how much you could sell it off shore for , don't keep it here and race for peanuts . Brain numbing . Great point, they do seem to struggle for stories that lot so they probably love one being sold & winning G1 in NZ is no longer the aspiration it once was, selling them to Aus is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Huey said: Great point, they do seem to struggle for stories that lot so they probably love one being sold & winning G1 in NZ is no longer the aspiration it once was, selling them to Aus is. That is exactly why our racing is soooo bland , anything with any real ability is pounced on , fillies to Aus and colts to HK . I'll give Te Akau their due , they race their horses , best will go to Aussie for the carnivals , which is fine , but the rest race and are sold after they have finished racing . So we end up with a very second rate product . is it any wonder TA win 25% of feature races , makes it easy to punt , TA with Opie up , the only safe way to have a punt in NZ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 25 minutes ago, nomates said: That is exactly why our racing is soooo bland , anything with any real ability is pounced on , fillies to Aus and colts to HK . I'll give Te Akau their due , they race their horses , best will go to Aussie for the carnivals , which is fine , but the rest race and are sold after they have finished racing . So we end up with a very second rate product . is it any wonder TA win 25% of feature races , makes it easy to punt , TA with Opie up , the only safe way to have a punt in NZ . That's also one of the issues though isn't it, TA are so dominant even when the good horses are kept in NZ , let alone the good ones being sold to Aus. also ! Bland is a great description of the sport in NZ , unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 Boy , i watched a couple of the races from Korea today , now that is bland , a picture of things to come . The riders tho , wow , made most of ours look like Lester Piggott , feck they make John Wayne look like an equestrian rider . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshu Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, nomates said: Boy , i watched a couple of the races from Korea today , now that is bland , a picture of things to come . The riders tho , wow , made most of ours look like Lester Piggott , feck they make John Wayne look like an equestrian rider . I think your south island riders in general not that far behind the tasmanian and Korean jockeys . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, theshu said: I think your south island riders in general not that far behind the tasmanian and Korean jockeys . Your not wrong , i have sworn off betting on SI racing except where Allpress or such are riding , every race questions should be asked about some of the mysterious riding tactics or complete lack of understanding that it is a race and not a trial or jumpout they are in . Obviously the stipes don't watch the races because they figure they could never get through all the issues from a race before the next was due to run . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I genuinely dont think they know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Freda said: I genuinely dont think they know. No I agree and I think thats prevalent across most of NZ racing Admin in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 So i see another of our top 3yo fillies has left our shores , Atishu , a late season star has been xfered to C Waller , trialing on Friday in Sydney . Will we have any good 3yo's able to step up and fill the better races later in the new season . Getting scary . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 hours ago, nomates said: So i see another of our top 3yo fillies has left our shores , Atishu , a late season star has been xfered to C Waller , trialing on Friday in Sydney . Will we have any good 3yo's able to step up and fill the better races later in the new season . Getting scary . Be interesting to follow her progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 hours ago, nomates said: So i see another of our top 3yo fillies has left our shores , Atishu , a late season star has been xfered to C Waller , trialing on Friday in Sydney . Will we have any good 3yo's able to step up and fill the better races later in the new season . Getting scary . NZTR have a plan , so dont worry! They'll report on her every more when she is over there , so we all can loveracing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 28/07/2021 at 6:19 PM, nomates said: So i see another of our top 3yo fillies has left our shores , Atishu , a late season star has been xfered to C Waller , trialing on Friday in Sydney . Will we have any good 3yo's able to step up and fill the better races later in the new season . Getting scary . There's your answer @nomates - picks up AUD$61,000 winning a Benchmark 88 at Royal Randwick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 Always knew the reason she went there . 36 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Will we have any good 3yo's able to step up and fill the better races later in the new season . Getting scary . This was the question . Atishu had been trialling well so had a bit of a punt , came off the bit on the corner but was impressive at the line , impressive last 50mtrs , this mare could be a little bit special . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, nomates said: Always knew the reason she went there . This was the question . Atishu had been trialling well so had a bit of a punt , came off the bit on the corner but was impressive at the line , impressive last 50mtrs , this mare could be a little bit special . Yep. She certainly had that look of superiority on her face when she went past them. Not easy to win first up at Royal Randwick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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