mardigras Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 55 minutes ago, barryb said: His ability beyond this is fairy tale. It's just one fairy tale after another from him. You select winners pre race. He claims them as blue print runners post race. His own posts are self fulfilling in demonstrating his own lack of credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Too many Whakachungas bazz Major issues including bleeding... But at her very next start on a Good track...after her HQ win ...wins again...in a faster time than the R 82's... ...less convictions is the BP....wake up And you keep spreading massive misinformation about Blinkers...you Flat staker I had Kahurau at 8 units...what's wrong with trusting Kenny that he knows best... ....after 53 starts that Blinkers may help the old bugger concentrate that bit more ...after still being close up last start... ...and adding 20% to bet max units? I very really bet solely on Blinkers...only when well overs after appropriate form analysis But you only do inappropriate...including your smack talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think you very rarely bet before the race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, Thomass said: Too many Whakachungas bazz Major issues including bleeding... But at her very next start on a Good track...after her HQ win ...wins again...in a faster time than the R 82's... ...less convictions is the BP....wake up And you keep spreading massive misinformation about Blinkers...you Flat staker I had Kahurau at 8 units...what's wrong with trusting Kenny that he knows best... ....after 53 starts that Blinkers may help the old bugger concentrate that bit more ...after still being close up last start... ...and adding 20% to bet max units? I very really bet solely on Blinkers...only when well overs after appropriate form analysis But you only do inappropriate...including your smack talk This is just another nonsense from you, now let me get this right again. 3yr olds Xmas thingy, blinkers, hoof pads, female jockeys, down in grade, trust certain trainers, Northern form, I can’t remeber the rest of this crap, there is no end to your stupidity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 not sure why you BOAYERS indulge Tommy TomTom's rubbish methods. Ignore him. Don't post in response to his nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Weasel said: not sure why you BOAYERS indulge Tommy TomTom's rubbish methods. Ignore him. Don't post in response to his nonsense. Exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, barryb said: This is just another nonsense from you, now let me get this right again. 3yr olds Xmas thingy, blinkers, hoof pads, female jockeys, down in grade, trust certain trainers, Northern form, I can’t remeber the rest of this crap, there is no end to your stupidity. Keep on repeating the same nonsense and your sycophants will think it's reality bazz You keep on following Northern form by the looks as well But it's all about when to apply it..and not your application wrt Yamato Over 1600M...never been placed below 2100M...and you were all over it seeking verification from the Clown Punce...who prices everything chumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Thomass said: Keep on repeating the same nonsense and your sycophants will think it's reality bazz You keep on following Northern form by the looks as well But it's all about when to apply it..and not your application wrt Yamato Over 1600M...never been placed below 2100M...and you were all over it seeking verification from the Clown Punce...who prices everything chumps I think most are interested in what is being said on this thread, so why spoil it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Newmarket said: I think most are interested in what is being said on this thread, so why spoil it? The heading is PUNTING 101 That refers to 'how to select winners' first and foremost Punters need to know that.. ...before how to Stake Im following the thread and destroying false prophets Grass "I don't have the answers" ...Bazz "follow Ted" ...are prophets of doom by the looks Im your saviour...kiss my ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 47 minutes ago, Newmarket said: I think most are interested in what is being said on this thread, so why spoil it? don't engage mate. He is the ultimate troll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 hours ago, FeelTheFear said: don't engage mate. He is the ultimate troll. I 100% don't troll Thats making outlandish statements to encourage mayhem... like Grassheads..."REDZEL's trainer is wrong...he doesn't need Blinkers" or Curious "prove Blinkers make them go faster" Astonishing bollocks like that Ultimately...I deal 100% in fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I see the troll has up to speed again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 13 hours ago, mardigras said: It's just one fairy tale after another from him. You select winners pre race. He claims them as blue print runners post race. His own posts are self fulfilling in demonstrating his own lack of credibility. And then you trolled my Blue Print... ...by spreading downright lies about the way I use the BP insisting I'd invest on 6 horses in a race...and counting each one as a flat Stake investment... Disgraceful trolling....to spread misinformation and create mayhem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Thomass said: And then you trolled my Blue Print... ...by spreading downright lies about the way I use the BP insisting I'd invest on 6 horses in a race...and counting each one as a flat Stake investment... Disgraceful trolling....to spread misinformation and create mayhem... I don't give a toss about how you use your shitty blue print. You wrote it on here. I supply the selections from it. The selections are indisputable as are the losses from them. Your posts are just crap and fairytales, so I'm back to ignoring you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomass said: Ultimately...I deal 100% in fact If you do, then answer my question and prove blinkers makes them go faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, curious said: If you do, then answer my question and prove blinkers makes them go faster. Oh gawd...are you still in need? Of course they do...on those neddys...like REDZEL...who need them ...recognised by real horsemen...not ignorami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I don't care who they are "recognised" by. Where is your evidence? Do you not understand the difference? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 The difference between actual horseman and an arrogant know all 'punter statsman' who thinks a trainer's wrong you mean? You should try the 20%...though... Trusting a trainer who's had his neddy for 53 starts without BO....applies them pretty stink if you can't.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Go back to your clinic Thomas and pick up your meds - you are lost without them - maybe you should be 5 days in 2 days out - better still 7 days in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 hours ago, curious said: I don't care who they are "recognised" by. Where is your evidence? Do you not understand the difference? He doesn't do evidence. He thinks hearsay means it's fact. He actually thinks that because Snowden suggests Redzel needs blinkers, that means Redzel runs faster with blinkers. Which has not been proven in any study I've seen. And even the anecdotal evidence doesn't support the idea. I like the idea of putting an extra 20% for blinkers first time when it wins (which we hear about after the event). But as has been shown, that is a rare event, so the times of putting 20% extra on when they lose is what would concern me more. Still, he's loyal to the TAB and NZ Racing needs him. So we should perhaps encourage him to stick with the blue print. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Good to see this thread not changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 13 hours ago, mardigras said: He doesn't do evidence. He thinks hearsay means it's fact. He actually thinks that because Snowden suggests Redzel needs blinkers, that means Redzel runs faster with blinkers. Which has not been proven in any study I've seen. And even the anecdotal evidence doesn't support the idea. I like the idea of putting an extra 20% for blinkers first time when it wins (which we hear about after the event). But as has been shown, that is a rare event, so the times of putting 20% extra on when they lose is what would concern me more. Still, he's loyal to the TAB and NZ Racing needs him. So we should perhaps encourage him to stick with the blue print. Cant you see with your bizarre obsession with being right about EVERTHING You know Pikey, Haysy, Wheeler, Snowden et el...ALL WRONG Snowden obviously doesn't know his own horse... ...and unbelievably your sycophants like curious and Bazz support such errant nonsense...because they're not horseman's asses either... It follows that anything else you say on ANYTHING should be taken with a MASSIVE grain of salt... Youre just so wrong on so many things wrt Thoroughbreds How can you be trusted these so called 'stats' are legit? and that you're not some kind of Walter Mitty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 The issue isn't whether I'm right or wrong regarding Redzel. The issue is you claim to use facts, when you rarely do. But you do use a lot of hearsay. You clearly don't understand the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Blinkers -of course they make a horse run faster and of course they do not make a horse run faster, .For the benefit of Curious I shall relate the answer to his Trabant. It is stuck in second gear and won't go faster so he takes it to his Licensed garage and they add a little thingy and wow he is in top gear and GOING FASTER. When a horse is not concentrating it messes around and does not go at top speed so a trainer applies blinkers and [sometimes] it helps the horse concentrate and causes it to run faster. Why do posters ask questions when they already know the answers ? Are they just 'stirring' ? Why do they drive old German cars ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fred said: When a horse is not concentrating it messes around and does not go at top speed so a trainer applies blinkers and [sometimes] it helps the horse concentrate and causes it to run faster. So, sometimes they cause the horse to run faster. Therefore sometimes they don't. And sometimes they make the horse run slower - or is that not the case? So how does a punter decide beforehand which of the 3 'sometimes' is going to occur? And when the sometimes happens to be 'run faster', how do you know how much faster? Before the race of course. Edited December 4, 2018 by mardigras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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