The Centaur Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 THe Savy Yong Blonk -Platinum Invador photo when the colours are inverted shows if anything Platinum Inv in front. The problem being the white portion of the nose. OK the photo on NZTR bit small but certainly would be interesting seeing a bigger version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Centaur Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 I'll admit close inspection does give SYB a light advantage. However I've seen it before the digitally interpreted photo finishes are biased against white borders travelling at speed. If one traces where the white nose should appear then there is a dead heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Centaur said: I'll admit close inspection does give SYB a light advantage. However I've seen it before the digitally interpreted photo finishes are biased against white borders travelling at speed. If one traces where the white nose should appear then there is a dead heat. So a hint for trainers is to nugget the nose? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I don't see the line in that photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, curious said: I don't see the line in that photo? It is the photo published on the NZTR website results page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: It is the photo published on the NZTR website results page. I know but where is the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, curious said: I don't see the line in that photo? Most image software has some tool you can use e.g cropping tool. Looking at some of the white jockey silks there does appear jagged edges where one would expect smooth contour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, curious said: I know but where is the line? Just in front of Savy Yong Blonk's nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Yes. It's a photo of the finish. Not the actual photo finish photo so you can't tell anything from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, curious said: Yes. It's a photo of the finish. Not the actual photo finish photo so you can't tell anything from that. I think it is the actual photo finish but the line isn't drawn on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 If we think like a computer then we must decide what to do with each pixel. However if something happens or prevents proper interpretation then what does it do. I guess it just copies what it expects to be there which could just be a continuation of the backgound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Looked pretty clear to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, curious said: Looked pretty clear to me. Trace Patinum's head from the noseband up to its eyes. Where the white diminishes but still exists the computer says stuff that we'll ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, The Centaur said: Trace Patinum's head from the noseband up to its eyes. Where the white diminishes but still exists the computer says stuff that we'll ignore it. The noseband to the eyes has nothing to do with it. The other horse's nostril is over the line when PI's is just on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Lincoln Farms website has a clear blown up photo showing Savy's nose in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 The point I'm making is that the white portion of PI's nose is further along therefore it would be in line with SYB. Now I don't know how photo finish equipment works but if several frames go into deciding the colour of one pixel then the final result seems biased against white. If the equipment is powered by a slow computer then daresay the final pixel color could well remain as the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: Lincoln Farms website has a clear blown up photo showing Savy's nose in front. Yep. Same photo showing SYB in front. Edited January 2, 2021 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradamus Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 It's a clear win for SYB to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Yip inside gets in for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 According to Photo Lynx instructions the camera settings need to be altered during the day when sun shines behind the camera. The resolution can become murky when a light color is against a light background, What I am saying is because Platinums white streak is so small it hasn't been picked therefore the difference of losing or dead heating. You can see the white streak on Platinum's nose below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Nostradamus said: It's a clear win for SYB to me Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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