Kakama Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 A mate has a horse in well known Canterbury stable ....that had this procedure. Syndicate was never told, first they knew was when bill arrived. They were pissed.....and horse went poorly in Auckland. It may be legal, but I don't like it, too many things as it is to make horses run hot n cold..... Explains why purdons have so many short priced runners beaten in small races....yet grow a leg...sit parked....bolt in when the moneys up!!! Seems many stables do it, racing all around country. Gives me, as a punter no confidence in the game..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 13 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: well spinning been around a long time in the dogs to Spinning in the dogs? I've been in the industry for 20 years and this is the first time I have heard of such a thing existing in greyhounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Some interesting information being posted. Thanks as it is quite enlightening. All the same what you are saying is that no one is breaking any rule's per se just working them better than others. Happening in Sydney with the Thoroughbreds too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, Noodlum said: Some interesting information being posted. Thanks as it is quite enlightening. All the same what you are saying is that no one is breaking any rule's per se just working them better than others. Happening in Sydney with the Thoroughbreds too. I do not think half of these people know what they are talking about. They accuse purdons of using something every second week. Maybe they just know how to condition a horse properly and the horses they train are just that much better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 53 minutes ago, BitofaLegend said: I do not think half of these people know what they are talking about. They accuse purdons of using something every second week. Maybe they just know how to condition a horse properly and the horses they train are just that much better Your right, before this thread was started, I didn’t know this was going on. I want to know more, seems more than just one stable doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, BitofaLegend said: Spinning in the dogs? I've been in the industry for 20 years and this is the first time I have heard of such a thing existing in greyhounds google blood spinning equipment as they are sold in oz for greyhounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 43 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: google blood spinning equipment as they are sold in oz for greyhounds Sold doesnt mean used. Ive never seen anyone in australia or new zealand use this equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, BitofaLegend said: Sold doesnt mean used. Ive never seen anyone in australia or new zealand use this equipment. You are kidding aren’t you ? No one is going to buy one and then not use it are they? If they weren’t selling them, then no one would bother to stock them! Obviously this blood spinning is going on, despite you never having seen anyone use it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 The “ serum “ Mark P got fined for injecting pre trial in Aussie last year was likely the result of this blood treatment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, LongOwner said: The “ serum “ Mark P got fined for injecting pre trial in Aussie last year was likely the result of this blood treatment. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 Ok, How about this. We all want the industry to be on a level playing field. Every week we are advised of gear changes for horses, advised if a driver is going to drive without a whip, advised if a horse is to be driven differently, then trainers & drivers are questioned regarding some horses performance. Well, I agree with all this, So why can’t the industry provide details when certain stables are doing this, and other drugs? Why not, I’m sure owners are forking out big dough for stuff, that’s not even improving horses, and punters need to know when trainers are trying their hardest, which is not all the time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 11 hours ago, LongOwner said: The “ serum “ Mark P got fined for injecting pre trial in Aussie last year was likely the result of this blood treatment. Proof? Or more rumours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Brodie said: You are kidding aren’t you ? No one is going to buy one and then not use it are they? If they weren’t selling them, then no one would bother to stock them! Obviously this blood spinning is going on, despite you never having seen anyone use it! Well not too many bigger trainers in NSW and victoria are using it so obviouslt isnt worth the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Read the site it using last Cup day as there success story - names the Alstars as winning all the big races using there treatment . Mark fined for injecting inside the stand down time period - not illegal drugs . You need anymore evidence - blind cheerleaders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakama Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 hours ago, LongOwner said: Read the site it using last Cup day as there success story - names the Alstars as winning all the big races using there treatment . Mark fined for injecting inside the stand down time period - not illegal drugs . You need anymore evidence - blind cheerleaders. So Long owner, you think its fair do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Kakama said: So Long owner, you think its fair do you? No I don’t - means the rich can afford it while bread & butter owners / trainers cannot so not a level starting point . Also , still trying to work out how this treatment is any different than blood doping - recycled own blood in knee (treatment) or vein what is the difference ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 hours ago, LongOwner said: No I don’t - means the rich can afford it while bread & butter owners / trainers cannot so not a level starting point . Also , still trying to work out how this treatment is any different than blood doping - recycled own blood in knee (treatment) or vein what is the difference ? Well said. Yep, it seems a few questions need to be answered on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Well said. Yep, it seems a few questions need to be answered on this. wonder how soft the riu are going to be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 11 hours ago, LongOwner said: All seems bizarre to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Everything is not equal in horse training land! There is a stable that produces champion race mares, but you would not pick them as being mares at all, they always look like males in their stature and composition! Not sure how this is able to happen? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, Brodie said: Everything is not equal in horse training land! There is a stable that produces champion race mares, but you would not pick them as being mares at all, they always look like males in their stature and composition! Not sure how this is able to happen? plus they leave no good horses too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Brodie said: Everything is not equal in horse training land! There is a stable that produces champion race mares, but you would not pick them as being mares at all, they always look like males in their stature and composition! Not sure how this is able to happen? You need to get under the horse and look up, some good tell tale signs of girlie or boy ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Newmarket said: You need to get under the horse and look up, some good tell tale signs of girlie or boy ? Is it just with horses we can do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, Brodie said: Is it just with horses we can do that? May look strange you running between peoples legs at local supermarket trying to work out sex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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