Chief Stipe Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Those that didn't: Sunline Bonecrusher Lonhro Kingston Town Octagonal Winx Black Caviar Northerly Grey Way Empire Rose Show Gate Frankel Makybe Diva Those that did: Secretariat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Some of those that did wear them. Might And Power Mahogany Veandercross Let's Elope Castletown Better Loosen Up Placid Ark Hyperno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, All The Aces said: Mahogany Are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 More that didn't: Saintly Manikato Vain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Some more Greats That Did: Doriemus Apache Cat Buffering Vo Rogue (at times) Dundeel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 22 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Northerly Check out 2001 Cox Plate Chief. NORTHERLY with the master former Harness racing Trainer Fred Kersley . Popped the Blinkers on to run down the amazing NZ Champion Sunline. What a stunning piece of Mental training !!!! and great use of Blinkers. (p.s Fred threw them winkers off in 2002 Cox Plate, and again ran down Sunline (4th) , hahaha so you win too lol) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Gammalite said: Check out 2001 Cox Plate Chief. NORTHERLY with the master former Harness racing Trainer Fred Kersley . Popped the Blinkers on to run down the amazing NZ Champion Sunline. What a stunning piece of Mental training !!!! and great use of Blinkers. (p.s Fred threw them winkers off in 2002 Cox Plate, and again ran down Sunline (4th) , hahaha so you win too lol) Only proves there is no rhyme or reason to using them let alone working out BEFORE a race if they are going to make a difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Only proves there is no rhyme or reason to using them let alone working out BEFORE a race if they are going to make a difference. Yes pretty clear cut reason. 'Anything' that helps (that is legal) you to WIN is the whole Rhyme. Before ,during and after a race. Blinkers are proven to be a great 'anything' at times. Blue Diamond last week-end? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gammalite said: Blinkers are proven to be a great 'anything' at times. They aren't actually - there is no evidence that shows they make a statistical difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, Gammalite said: Yes pretty clear cut reason. 'Anything' that helps (that is legal) you to WIN is the whole Rhyme. Before ,during and after a race. Blinkers are proven to be a great 'anything' at times. Blue Diamond last week-end? Gamma you'll NEVER win ANY argument with this bloke.... Even if he hears the Blue Diamond winner improved 5L according to the FBI... He'll say it was the rocket up its ass... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, Thomass said: He'll say it was the rocket up its ass... Hahaha I laughed when this one was posted yesterday. Could be one of Chiefs old horses lol. Although I'm glad they still put some 'Blinds' on the horse lol...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Well , Lunar Fox , very poor in the Gns prelude , so on go the blinkers and would you believe it gets up and wins the G1 Australian Gns , Jock said he was much more on his game out of the barriers . 14 length turn around on Tangaloa . Good on the connections . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, nomates said: Well , Lunar Fox , very poor in the Gns prelude , so on go the blinkers and would you believe it gets up and wins the G1 Australian Gns , Jock said he was much more on his game out of the barriers . 14 length turn around on Tangaloa . Good on the connections . So you and Thomas were the only ones that backed it? From the Trainer's comments it was a throw of the dice with regard to the blinkers as they couldn't find any reason for its last start failure. Dont forget that it was found to have bled two starts back after a post-race vet exam was undertaken. Also that it raced previously in winkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I was just pointing the result out . Wasn't looking for analysis . Something turned him around , if only he could tell us . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, nomates said: I was just pointing the result out . Wasn't looking for analysis . Something turned him around , if only he could tell us . I doubt it was the blinkers. Hasn't shown any form since his Sires Produce win. Winkers on, winkers off, blinkers, bled...I have doubts he'll go on with it. Aeogon would eat him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Aeogon would eat him Aegon would eat him , that i agree with . 24 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I doubt it was the blinkers. Hasn't shown any form since his Sires Produce win. Winkers on, winkers off, blinkers, bled...I have doubts he'll go on with it. Perhaps the change of trainer and environment has helped , and a run under his belt . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 excellent effort by the F4 in the Darley Blamey Stakes GROUP 2 the race before the guineas as well. Star of the Seas, Fifty Stars, Buffalo River, Best of Days....Waller, Hayes/Dab,Moroney and Godolphin ALL in Big bright Blinkers, Pretty good trainers , know if blinkers helping the concentration or not, and a $279 F4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, Gammalite said: excellent effort by the F4 in the Darley Blamey Stakes GROUP 2 the race before the guineas as well. Star of the Seas, Fifty Stars, Buffalo River, Best of Days....Waller, Hayes/Dab,Moroney and Godolphin ALL in Big bright Blinkers, Pretty good trainers , know if blinkers helping the concentration or not, and a $279 F4. How about the Guineas First4 , wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: excellent effort by the F4 in the Darley Blamey Stakes GROUP 2 the race before the guineas as well. Star of the Seas, Fifty Stars, Buffalo River, Best of Days....Waller, Hayes/Dab,Moroney and Godolphin ALL in Big bright Blinkers, Pretty good trainers , know if blinkers helping the concentration or not, and a $279 F4. Which you didn't get. Blinkers or no blinkers I doubt even you would have backed Lunar Fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 No blinkers on these four! Correction there are five horses in that photo and none of them are wearing blinkers. None of them seem too worried about narrow gaps, contact, big TV screens or running rails! They all know where the winning post is perhaps because they can see it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Which you didn't get. Blinkers or no blinkers I doubt even you would have backed Lunar Fox. No, alas he cost me, as would of got something with the Cherry Tortoni. who was my Guinea's selection. BUT I do love an omen bet. Daughter came to visit her dog today , which lives here after she moved out to share house with Buddies. His name is LEO . So yes we did back Leo in the first race at Sydney. so that was good. and daughter asked LEO ( a pomeranian cross who looks like a Fox ) was acting funny and weird , and was it because of the Full Moon last night ,we had in QLD? should of been right on to LUNAR FOX after that lol....... didn't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Chief. Are you in denial that blinkers can have a positive effect on a horse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, All The Aces said: Chief. Are you in denial that blinkers can have a positive effect on a horse? Of course not. I don't like them though. Certainly when assessing a horses chances from a punting perspective I wouldn't consider them. Many trainers have no idea what reaction they will achieve when putting them on a horse. Their use has increased as time pressure and training standards have decreased. Surely the fact that one of the best Grp 1 blanket finishes EVER yesterday occurred in the Chipping Norton where none of the first five under a blanket at the finish wore them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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