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List of the number of drug positives in Harness Racing in the last 10 years.


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Name:  C Dalgety
Date:  February 2013
Offence:  Rules 1004(1)(1A)(2)
Drug Identified:  Phenylbutazone and Oxyphenbutazone - source "Bute" - no levels given as zero tolerance threshold.
Penalty:  $6,000 fine.  Horse disqualified.

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1 hour ago, Noodlum said:

Since the "honest" and "dishonest" harness trainers are being singled out.  Why not list the all the drug positives found in the last 10 years?

So - 

Name
Offence
Drug Identified
Penalty

Afterall according to Newmarket and Galah it is rife so the list will be very long won't it?

I don't have an issue with your topic,just the reference to me stating i have said something i have not. In fact i have said the complete opposite. I have posted just that this week. 

 In my opinion you do so because the merit in your argument is weak as relates to this topic. So you make things about personalities instead. 

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Name:  AR Beck
Date:  February 2021
Offence:  Rules 1004(1)(1A)(2)
Drug Identified:  Cobalt  290 ug/l (threshold 100 ug/l) - note threshold halved since 2016 Dalgety case.  Source feed additives.
Penalty:  $8,000 fine.  Horse disqualified

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34 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said:

8 years for telling mr grim to fuck off

later episode

but yes it does seem disrespecting (not that he has come close to earning the respect of many) the grim is likely to roughly double the punishment

speaks volumes about grim

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Name:  S Walkinshaw
Date:  April 2016
Offence:  Rules 1004(1)(1A)(2)
Drug Identified:  Cobalt 600mg/l (old rule threshold 200mg/l) source - Equine Blood Booster that had been mislabelled or not manufactured to specifications.
Penalty:  Two Horses disqualified.

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49 minutes ago, Noodlum said:

Name:  C Dalgety
Date:  May 2016
Offence:  Rules 1004(1)(1A)(2)
Drug Identified:  Cobalt  226 ug/l (threshold 220 ug/l) source McGrouther Equine Mineral Mix
Penalty:  $32,000 fine.

Name: Whippy, Forbury, Gammalite, Retarded driver

Date: 2020-21

Offence: Multiple BOAY indiscretions

Drug Identified: Whippy (unknown substance) Gammalite (broke the testing machine) Forbury/Retarded driver (angry pills)

Penalty: Looking like a goose or Pillock amongst your peers on BOAY.

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Name:  R Brosnan
Date:  February 2018
Offence:  Rules 1004(1)(1A)(2)
Drug Identified:  Cobalt - 130 mg/l (threshold 100mg/l).  Source not confirmed but Cobalt Chloride found in vials.
Penalty:  $19,200 fine.  Horse disqualified.

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To round this off.....must include an Ozzie!

Name:  LJ Justice
Date:  October 2011
Offence:  Rules 1004(1)(1A)(2)
Drug Identified:  dimethyl sulphoxide ("DMSO") at a level of 25.8 mg/L (threshold 15g/l)
 

Horse involved - Smoken Up winning the Interdom Grand Final.

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Name:  NA Chilcott
Date:  September 2013
Offence:  Rules 1004(1)(1A)(2)
Drug Identified:  0-desmethyltramadol (Tramadol) - no source identified - Professor Tobin stated the 100 picograms per millilitre of the metabolite O-desmethyltramadol detected by the Hong Kong laboratory was equivalent to one second in a person’s life if he or she were 320 years old. One picogram was one part per trillion. He added that to his knowledge this was the lowest concentration of O-desmethyltramadol ever reported in a horse. In his opinion, there was no possibility whatsoever of a pharmacological effect on the racing performance of the horse.
Penalty:  $3,300 fine.

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1 minute ago, Rangatira said:

outstanding effort noodie

Other than the TCO2 I haven't found ONE case where a performance enhancing substance has been administered deliberately.

Even with the TCO2 cases they were within 10% of the threshold!  Yep doping is rife in the industry!

Important to note that some of those appearing in the "Honest" list are also on this list.  Unlike some it sometimes pays to look at each cases on a case by case basis.

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5 minutes ago, Noodlum said:

To round this off.....must include an Ozzie!

Name:  LJ Justice
Date:  October 2011
Offence:  Rules 1004(1)(1A)(2)
Drug Identified:  dimethyl sulphoxide ("DMSO") at a level of 25.8 mg/L (threshold 15g/l)
 

Horse involved - Smoken Up winning the Interdom Grand Final.

Not the first time either Noodles !  For an Interdominion FINAL in NZ.

back in your day (Noodlum winning in the early 70's ) Newmarket wants 30 years (here's 50 years for him)

1971 Juniors Image (full of Caffiene at Addington in the final , burst clear 600m out and held on to win)

DISQUALIFIED 5 days later , and Phil Coulson (a WA hall of famer with 1000 wins given 7 years DQ , a massive record penalty at the time.

 

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12 minutes ago, Noodlum said:

Other than the TCO2 I haven't found ONE case where a performance enhancing substance has been administered deliberately.

Even with the TCO2 cases they were within 10% of the threshold!  Yep doping is rife in the industry!

Important to note that some of those appearing in the "Honest" list are also on this list.  Unlike some it sometimes pays to look at each cases on a case by case basis.

That observation just confirms you take what you want from anything related to this subject,and ignore whats right there in front of you.

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1 minute ago, the galah said:

That observation just confirms you take what you want from anything related to this subject,and ignore whats right there in front of you.

Well spell it out.  "WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME?"

Look at the list - there is SFA of anything!  No evidence of widespread "cheating"!

 

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