Brodie Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 We all know that if you go into a Casino nowadays and in the past, that you will see heaps of people that come from Asian countries! Nothing rascist about it, but the Asian people have always loved to gamble. Not going to point out any particular countries, because it now seems to be most of them going by the people who now frequent the Chch Casino and I know Auckland as well big time! My question is why do we not have the same people wagering on harness racing, as this would seem to be a good market to target to get more money into harness by both owning and punting!! I have never seen many oncourse and very rarely do you see them wagering at agencies. Do Asian people enjoy the immediate result that a bet at the Casino offers or is there some other reason? Off the cuff I can only think of Luk Chin as being the only Asian trainer in NZ over the years! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Great market to target Brods. You are on the money and Im off to bed. As for Off the cuff I can only think of Luk Chin as being the only Asian trainer in NZ over the years. I heard someone said about him, He earns thousands, as Dr Luk Chin, Yet he choses to risk his life with these horses. Personally for me Karrots, Iv seen more than 1 of his horses play up at start of a race and 1 fall to the track. Hence S.C, keeps a watchful eye out for him. Bless him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Karrots said: Hence S.C, keeps a watchful eye out for him. Bless him. Terribly sorry, me again making a mistake, Sean M. I mean. Nite all. Edited April 19, 2021 by Karrots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Brodie said: We all know that if you go into a Casino nowadays and in the past, that you will see heaps of people that come from Asian countries! Nothing rascist about it, but the Asian people have always loved to gamble. Not going to point out any particular countries, because it now seems to be most of them going by the people who now frequent the Chch Casino and I know Auckland as well big time! My question is why do we not have the same people wagering on harness racing, as this would seem to be a good market to target to get more money into harness by both owning and punting!! I have never seen many oncourse and very rarely do you see them wagering at agencies. Do Asian people enjoy the immediate result that a bet at the Casino offers or is there some other reason? Off the cuff I can only think of Luk Chin as being the only Asian trainer in NZ over the years! Nothing rascist there Brodie. I think the demographic that reside in NZ and Aus are just pursuing the lifestyle they enjoy and harness racing wasn't part of it. Is to me a very local Tradition filled Sport. Racing is HUGE in Hong Kong and Bart Cummings raced Cox/Melbourne Cup winners for Hong Kong businessmen , many of whom buy heaps of horses every year to race in Hong Kong , from NZ and Oz. Very first horse i ever drove in South Auckland was for one of the loveliest persons I ever met in years of harness, and his wife in South Auckland. Lee Nandina owned by Charlie Wong, an Asian gentleman , market gardener in South Auckland, who would of raced a fair few over the years, with his family. got some results but had FUN too. These days the punting entertainment is indeed for instant gratification. as you suggested. Horse racing is almost entirely for people who Love horses dearly, and can wait as a Long term project for any results. (like Karrots) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, Gammalite said: Lee Nandina owned by Charlie Wong, an Asian gentleman , market gardener in South Auckland, who would of raced a fair few over the years, with his family. got some results but had FUN Gamms, Lee Nandina sparks memories from my early nights at The Park. Did he race out of Jim Smith's Takanini Barn! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Taupiri Wonder said: Gamms, Lee Nandina sparks memories from my early nights at The Park. Did he race out of Jim Smith's Takanini Barn! She did, what a little pocket dynamo, cranky little thing she was. One of her foals did quite well for Big Jim and Charlie Wong and his wife too. Captain Lee won a fair few I think, with Mango driving, before he was exported off to WA in the 90's , like every second NZ winner it seems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 15 hours ago, Brodie said: I have never seen many oncourse and very rarely do you see them wagering at agencies. noticed quite a few at the betting windows at addington in the early 80's a few of them took a lot of combinations and if i spotted them ahead of me in line i jumped in another queue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With A Dream Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 16 hours ago, Brodie said: Do Asian people enjoy the immediate result that a bet at the Casino offers or is there some other reason? I suspect you have answered your own question there Brodie. Casino gambling is more in their culture rather than Harness Racing which doesn't exist in Asia. I do agree that it would be a good idea to market our industry to them somehow. I seem to remember the late Derek Jones had some Chinese owners many years ago. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, With A Dream said: I suspect you have answered your own question there Brodie. Casino gambling is more in their culture rather than Harness Racing which doesn't exist in Asia. I do agree that it would be a good idea to market our industry to them somehow. I seem to remember the late Derek Jones had some Chinese owners many years ago. kevin williams too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: noticed quite a few at the betting windows at addington in the early 80's a few of them took a lot of combinations and if i spotted them ahead of me in line i jumped in another queue Snap:Hutt Park,late 80's/early 90's. Oncourse Jackpot,expected to reach $250,000 plus,& had to terminate. A couple of Other Syndicate Members & Myself flew down from Auckland. We had $8,000 to spend,& about 90 minutes before 1st Leg,I joined queue 2nd from window. After a few minutes,(and not moving)I asked the guy ahead of me,how much was he spending!Answer was $9,000 plus,so I instantly jumped queques, In those days,tickets were sold in $1 units,Think you took first 2 Legs same as a double,then if live returned to exchange live tickets race by race. I only got all our tickets on with a few minutes to spare,(though I think race start was delayed few minutes to assist the still long queues)& the other guy was still getting tickets punched out. Turns out that His Syndicate was organised by Ken Wikeley,a keen racegoer who I had often seen around Northern Tracks,& was in The News as Co-Founder of Rainbow's End. For the record,we were knocked out after 2nd Leg. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 for mister dg imperials - time, kiora, tartan disbar for the milkman ( not john boyd) master mood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With A Dream Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Taupiri Wonder said: Oncourse Jackpot,expected to reach $250,000 plus,& had to terminate. A couple of Other Syndicate Members & Myself flew down from Auckland. This is exactly why we should still have these jackpots. Pick 6 is a waste of time. How come lotto can have $30m Jackpots and racing doesn't get past a paltry $50k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, With A Dream said: This is exactly why we should still have these jackpots. Pick 6 is a waste of time. How come lotto can have $30m Jackpots and racing doesn't get past a paltry $50k on course exchange the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 They were good days when punters and enthusiasts turned up oncourse and there was atmosphere. The days at Addington with the manual dividend board with the red and yellow win and place being altered. That was exciting for very young enthusiasts. If there was a roughy win there was often heckling from the public as the trainer or driver had the long walk back to the stables! None of this nowadays and next to no punters oncourse. Basically only owners and stable employees and people socialisimg for a few drinks. Punters have been turned off by a variety of things and this is a huge problem in the future for an industry that is on the slide! Larger wagering Punters can not get sufficient money on to make it worth going, what with this crazy AML policy which is just blatant BS!!!!! The clubs need to wake up to this and get the $1k limit removed as it is costing them big time financially 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Longshot Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jonny Longshot said: Racist Is that the name of a horse and you are tipping it? Or are you accusing someone of being racist? Or are you trying to help BOAY's search ratings on Google? Basically what is your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Longshot Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Just taking the piss out of Brodie basically (settle down one and all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Jonny Longshot said: Just taking the piss out of Brodie basically (settle down one and all). Jonny, Lol taking the piss out of Brodie by calling him racist? To be fair I would say each and all have opinions that are not politically or culturally correct with the nowadays BS!!! No I wasnt being racist, I see so many people from Asian countries whether it be Chinese, Japanese, India, Pakistan or whatever at the casino! Wondering why they do not go to harness tracks ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) To be fair I do not think Brods was being racist in this thread. Have however read a post where it was racist not long ago, now the word has come up. A post stating Maori or Maori culture is from the Stone Age re Brods post. Anyways moving on. Edited April 22, 2021 by Karrots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Karrots said: To be fair I do not think Brods was being racist in this thread. Have however read a post where it was racist not long ago, now the word has come up. A post stating Maori or Maori culture is from the Stone Age re Brods post. Anyways moving on. Thanks Karrots To be honest, I do not really care if anyone thinks that I am racist, sexist or anything that is not correct nowadays! The world is a far worse place culturally and politically sleaking to what it used to be! Blatant BS not being able to use the word woman instead it has to be person! Golly Wog is racist etc. etc. Crazy shit that I just do not go along with, so maybe I am racist, sexist etc. Just calling it the way it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Brodie said: Thanks Karrots To be honest, I do not really care if anyone thinks that I am racist, sexist or anything that is not correct nowadays! The world is a far worse place culturally and politically sleaking to what it used to be! Blatant BS not being able to use the word woman instead it has to be person! Golly Wog is racist etc. etc. Crazy shit that I just do not go along with, so maybe I am racist, sexist etc. Just calling it the way it is! Brods, not going to get into this with you. Much prefer to talk with you about racing, our common interest 😁 Let me correct my wording so Im more clear, it was a racist comment, that does not specially mean you are racist in my view. You maybe you may not be, Id need to know you better. Which I don't. However it was a racist comment. Anyways nite all. Edited April 22, 2021 by Karrots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Brodie said: To be honest, I do not really care if anyone thinks that I am racist, sexist or anything that is not correct nowadays suspected money launderer ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Rangatira said: suspected money launderer ? Ranga, we are all suspected money launderers, were you not aware of this? Produce your ID when you are collecting over $1k, that is what money launderers do isnt it? They put their money thru the NZ TAB or oncourse a whole $1k and hope that they win! Is is just a load of BS, TAB wanting total control! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Brodie said: Ranga, we are all suspected money launderers, were you not aware of this? i had no idea i thought it was just you i keep my fixed odds collects under $1k but only due to fear of being restricted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Rangatira said: i had no idea i thought it was just you i keep my fixed odds collects under $1k but only due to fear of being restricted Everyone is a potential money launderer Ranga! If you spend $2 and win $1k on a trifecta then the NZ TAB want to know who spent that $2 and won $1k because they could well be big time money launderers! I can advise them that it is highly unlikely that that $2 punter is a money launderer, but maybe they are??????? It is just a load of bollacks but they just want control, but it is going to backfire on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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