Chief Stipe Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, the galah said: If it is, whats the bet at the time some not too clever people actually thought excluding that reporter was a victory of sorts,and wouldn't have consequences You are spinning again Galah because you are on the wrong side of the debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rangatira said: i am pretty sure it was the judges decision alone prior to a break he had warned the press gallery, yes there were a few, clarkson and victoria amongst them during the break members of the press ignored the judges warnings on his return the good kind judge made it known that he was well aware and took action So the judge thought excluding some members of the press was the most effective way to get balanced reporting? Like that worked(or was ever going to help). The proof is in the pudding so to speak. Makes you wonder. 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: You are spinning again Galah because you are on the wrong side of the debate. You keep telling yourself that,but i don't think so. Doesn't everyone thinks they are on the right side of the debate,so what does that mean anyway. Edited May 6, 2021 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, LongOwner said: It is disgraceful if a member of the RIU in paid employment is leaking confidential investigation details to the press. It must be a RIU member either doing it directly or through an intermediary. I just can't understand why some harness supporters can't see that. It is making HRNZ management look like impotent incompetent dicks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, the galah said: So the judge thought excluding some members of the press was the most effective way to get balanced reporting? i am pretty sure he did it because his warning was so blatantly disrespected 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, the galah said: You keep telling yourself that,but i don't think so. Doesn't everyone thinks they are on the right side of the debate,so what does that mean anyway. You keep blindly backing the RIU. In my opinion this current mob is a big part of a problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: You keep blindly backing the RIU. In my opinion this current mob is a big part of a problem. I agree with galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Matty Anderson. You got 2 x years and you can't even wait. What are you thinking? I appreciate we all need to work but you could have not put yourself and others in this position. GREED AND A HERO This is the problem with the young trainers, young drivers and youth in the game at present. You all think it won't happen to you and you all keep pushing the boundaries. You are all aware of the hard work that goes into training and driving a winner but prepared to steal a win of each other. Jesse this is what you've done. Stolen from your peers and couldn't stop as greed and fame set in. I'm just happy the person who was meant to assist YOU on that Friday was sick. Parents of young people in this industry need to explain right and wrong. Not alright to over syndicate horses and sell false insurance policys. Not alright to charge owners and syndicates for horses not being trained or even exist. Not alright to sign owners signatures without authority. Matty, Mitchell, Jesse. They've been caught. Don't become another name or disgrace to your industry and sport by continuing this trend and stop the average articles being published by Mr Martin Van Beynen regarding another stupid young trainer or driver. Matty. Ken Spicer and Peter Jones went out of their way for you. How do you think they feel? The people that have supported you. Wow. Insulting behavior. 2 x year sentence or suspension should mean that and nothing less. By the sentence or suspension not starting from the last infringement date makes a joke out of the whole industry. If you can't work for a period in an industry or environment don't put yourself in that position. If you live in an environment where this might happen, find somewhere else. Basic 101 of counseling if you've learnt. Next attention gets drawn to your employer. I'm sure they're stoked. No more RIU, JCA, Police, drugs, cheating, search warrants, male assault female and Animal welfare campaigns. If you see something not right, it's not right and speak up. DRINKING BEFORE RACES FOR DRIVERS IS NOT A GOOD LOOK. DRINKING AFTER RACES IS A BETTER LOOK. Someone must have told someone. Don't give RIU room to continue their growth in the codes through leaks and poor investigational work to taint our industry anymore. Its a matter of time before the next young trainer or driver who comes before the RIU spills the wrong information and it opens up operation saga #2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 15 hours ago, Gammalite said: One comment on this matter from me Chief as have read enough , and now know enough , of every BAD thing going on in NZ harness these days. Other channel even worse. RIU and INCA (with the police help) are CONSTANTLY seeking New evidence and asking Probing questions Where-ever possible , to UNCOVER any illegal activity going on in NZ harness racing. Of course some people ARE going to answer the questions put to them . I would !!!! If you have nothing to hide under the bed (like Darren Weir lol....) then you should be fine. So it is called INVESTIGATING. You can call it LEAK gathering all you like , but they are trying to keep NZ harness clean . a good thing. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And like you say, it is great they find bugger All ! a good thing !!!!!!! p.s Agree if Matt A has sentence of 2 years, then that IS the sentence. should be able to apply to resume harness after that term. because he now chose to 'get in early' and got caught at Burrows, The expelled term should be extended or restart as he has consciously broken the arrangement (punishment) TOTALLY AGREE. THE EXPELLED TERM SHOULD BE DOUBLE AND CONTINUED TO BE DOUBLED. 2 YEARS BECOMES 4 YEARS ANOTHER MISS HAP. 4 YEARS BECOMES 8 YEARS AND SO ON. THIS WILL KEEP HARNESS CLEAN.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, James said: No more RIU, JCA, Police, drugs, cheating, search warrants, male assault female and Animal welfare campaigns. So you are supporting a RIU/JCA justice system that supersedes/overrides the Courts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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