Chief Stipe Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 It's clearly evident, that if you take at face value that HRNZ are being kept in the dark, that the RIU are feeding the media. Who is the leak at the RIU? Who at the RIU is feeding the media? What is their agenda? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 45 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Who at the RIU is feeding the media? What is their agenda? who is feeding the riu? what is their agenda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Rangatira said: who is feeding the riu? what is their agenda? Yes another good point. BUT the information we read in the media is coming from an anonymous source at the RIU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Keep feeding the media, clean up the sport. Come on chief, if these clowns were not being dishonest, there would be no story to tell. Dont blame the media, i have no issue with it. Same with that dodgy mutt owner who smoked P! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Newmarket said: Keep feeding the media, clean up the sport. Come on chief, if these clowns were not being dishonest, there would be no story to tell. Dont blame the media, i have no issue with it. Same with that dodgy mutt owner who smoked P! "Cleaning up the sport" doesn't require feeding two journalists who appear to have an agenda against the industry and are so lazy that they have to rely on leaks from the RIU for their stories which they continue to repeat ad infinitum. The RIU DOESN'T run the sport - HRNZ has that function. Leaking to the media BEFORE informing HRNZ serves no purpose but to undermine the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Please, Please. Any person out there that sees dodgy shit going on, take photos, videos etc. Dob them in, get the media involved, we have to sort it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Please, Please. Any person out there that sees dodgy shit going on, take photos, videos etc. Dob them in, get the media involved, we have to sort it. Why are you so bitter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 13 hours ago, LongOwner said: Why are you so bitter ? You know,i've always thought from some of your posts, that you were the bitter one when it came to the riu. I don't know what experiences youv'e had that have lead you to give that impression,and i'm not saying you don't have good reason for that,and i think it likely youv'e dealt with something where you have been unjustly treated, but people who have been accused of being bitter are quick to point out the same traits shown by others on the opposite side of the argument. I think we need to recognise that being bitter is not a bad thing,its just a word to describe feelings you have because of a perceived injustice.We need to judge the merit of the perceived injustice,and we all come to our own conclusions. One of the biggest problems in the past has been those who's job it was to enforce the rules focused on the small players,while turning a blind eye to the big players. There was no consistency in enforcement,and administrators had no systems in place to address it,nor did they really care.It was part of the reason for the reduction in participation levels,then we had those who's actions had lead many to no longer supporting the industry, lamenting that fact,when they themselves were largely to blame.Many owners in the past have also read where... whoever have returned a positive,for example the blue magic scandle,and what did we see. we saw increased support of those who transgressed, because many owners are all about winning,and expect their trainers to take risks and to push the boundaries. So now we have the riu seemingly targeting people by what they do,instead of ignoring some because of who they are.Thats the way it should have always been. Had it been so then everyone would have been happier and feelings of bitterness would not exist to the extent they currently do. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 41 minutes ago, the galah said: One of the biggest problems in the past has been those who's job it was to enforce the rules focused on the small players,while turning a blind eye to the big players. Rubbish that is only a perception not a fact. 41 minutes ago, the galah said: There was no consistency in enforcement,and administrators had no systems in place to address it,nor did they really care. Surely you are taking the piss by inferring that it has improved? Inconsistency is rampant - from Lamb the starter, to inconsistent non-starter declarations, to unfathomable application of the whipping rules, to sitting on positive drug charges etc, etc! 41 minutes ago, the galah said: Many owners in the past have also read where... whoever have returned a positive,for example the blue magic scandle,and what did we see. we saw increased support of those who transgressed, because many owners are all about winning,and expect their trainers to take risks and to push the boundaries. Get over the Blue Magic "scandal" - it happened 16 years ago!!!! 41 minutes ago, the galah said: So now we have the riu seemingly targeting people by what they do,instead of ignoring some because of who they are.Thats the way it should have always been. Had it been so then everyone would have been happier and feelings of bitterness would not exist to the extent they currently do. You really think that this RIU mob is an improvement? INCA has been an absolute travesty and a waste of millions of dollars without ONE RESULT! So who have the RIU "caught"? Nothing from INCA aside from some recreational dug charges which weren't even in their target! Then outside of INCA who have they "caught"? McGrath and Alford. How were they caught? By hiding in hedges wearing flak jackets! So much for a consistent and robust drug testing system - they couldn't detect anything. Racing Victoria has been testing for formalin since 2015!!!! Or did the RIU have positives that they sat on? They didn't "catch" Kerr - he was dobbed in by disgruntled owners (justifiably I might add) - no systems in place to prevent the fraud that was done and no indication since that HRNZ will put these systems in place. The RIU betting analyst (does he buy your form analysis Galah?) was unaware that Kerr was gambling millions of dollars he didn't have offshore!!! All you can come up with is a "lost a leg" theory and "well if he was dishonest enough to commit fraud then he must have been doping". No proof which shoots down your contention that the RIU is consistent and doing a great job! Their systems haven't found any evidence of cheating! Matt Anderson - again not a result for the RIU. Caught with recreational drugs by wire tapping during INCA!!!! They found NOTHING else! Then hounded by the RIU still looking for a result to hide their failure (have a read about the RIU ex-cop history!). A domestic violence event results and is dealt with by the Courts. An automatic ban punishment that is way above what the Judge imposed. RIU result = ZERO. I'm sorry Galah but your RIU form analysis just doesn't add up!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 15 hours ago, LongOwner said: Why are you so bitter ? Look in the mirror yourself Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Look in the mirror yourself Martin If you want to try and "out" someone (unsuccessfully I might add) then out yourself first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 15 hours ago, LongOwner said: Why are you so bitter ? I'd describe it as realistic rather than bitter. Sometimes one has to be cruel to be kind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 5 hours ago, the galah said: You know,i've always thought from some of your posts, that you were the bitter one when it came to the riu. I don't know what experiences youv'e had that have lead you to give that impression,and i'm not saying you don't have good reason for that,and i think it likely youv'e dealt with something where you have been unjustly treated, but people who have been accused of being bitter are quick to point out the same traits shown by others on the opposite side of the argument. I think we need to recognise that being bitter is not a bad thing,its just a word to describe feelings you have because of a perceived injustice.We need to judge the merit of the perceived injustice,and we all come to our own conclusions. One of the biggest problems in the past has been those who's job it was to enforce the rules focused on the small players,while turning a blind eye to the big players. There was no consistency in enforcement,and administrators had no systems in place to address it,nor did they really care.It was part of the reason for the reduction in participation levels,then we had those who's actions had lead many to no longer supporting the industry, lamenting that fact,when they themselves were largely to blame.Many owners in the past have also read where... whoever have returned a positive,for example the blue magic scandle,and what did we see. we saw increased support of those who transgressed, because many owners are all about winning,and expect their trainers to take risks and to push the boundaries. So now we have the riu seemingly targeting people by what they do,instead of ignoring some because of who they are.Thats the way it should have always been. Had it been so then everyone would have been happier and feelings of bitterness would not exist to the extent they currently do. So you are just anti Allstars! Confirms you are bitter and likely jealous of others success. Also, you may find an RIU steward gave Matt Anderson approval, if on ptve property, and The Press go the lead before an inspection took place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, LongOwner said: So you are just anti Allstars! Confirms you are bitter and likely jealous of others success. Also, you may find an RIU steward gave Matt Anderson approval, if on ptve property, and The Press go the lead before an inspection took place . Pretty much what i expect from you. Edited May 9, 2021 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, LongOwner said: So you are just anti Allstars! Confirms you are bitter and likely jealous of others success. Also, you may find an RIU steward gave Matt Anderson approval, if on ptve property, and The Press go the lead before an inspection took place . So you post like on the chiefs original post suggesting the RIU has someone feeding the press about the story of anderson assisting another trainer,then in this post on the same subject you say "an RIU steward may have given Mr Anderson approval to do so". To be honest its hard to take anything you say seriously. Edited May 9, 2021 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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