Chilcott Stables

[Guest CrossCodes]

Gee the Nicola Chilcott stables are a shadow of their former selves, always used to have a good horse about but have been struggling for a number of seasons now, especially now the grass track racing has gone, her battlers just can’t compete now.

Same as the Abernathy stables, are they still even training now? All their winners were on the grass tracks but I can’t recall the last winner they had?

The Cambridge trainers certainly seem to be just a bunch of battlers who just take turns winning the odd race, the racing around there is a pretty sad watch.

[Brodie]

I dont think I have seen such small fields at Cambridge before!
Whether it was the lockdown that horses are not quite ready, if not then North Island harness racing is stuffed.

 

 

[Taupiri Wonder]

2 hours ago, Brodie said:

I dont think I have seen such small fields at Cambridge before!
Whether it was the lockdown that horses are not quite ready, if not then North Island harness racing is stuffed.

 

 

We shall get to see what difference a week makes!

Next Thursday Night Meeting Sept 16-Originally Scheduled Auckland Trotting Club at Alex Park.

Now Transferred to Cambridge Raceway-Meeting still run by ATC,with their usual Stakes.

 

[Gammalite]

3 hours ago, CrossCodes said:

The Cambridge trainers certainly seem to be just a bunch of battlers who just take turns winning the odd race, the racing around there is a pretty sad watch.

Just looking at results tonight and the races were won by Barry Purdon (with 3 winners) and David Butcher along with Telfers partnership as well. Some of the best horsepeople in the country with amazing training and/or driving records.

The other winners were Mike Berger, Dr Luk Chin and roger Villiger who have all been training winners for absolute decades , and supporting the industry well . Congrats to them all on some more winners!!!!!!

Where is the sad bit ?. Very high quality horsepeople getting good results. 

[the galah]

15 hours ago, CrossCodes said:

Gee the Nicola Chilcott stables are a shadow of their former selves, always used to have a good horse about but have been struggling for a number of seasons now, especially now the grass track racing has gone, her battlers just can’t compete now.

Same as the Abernathy stables, are they still even training now? All their winners were on the grass tracks but I can’t recall the last winner they had?

The Cambridge trainers certainly seem to be just a bunch of battlers who just take turns winning the odd race, the racing around there is a pretty sad watch.

I don't know. Personally i think chilcott has a nice team and her horses always race consistently. She had 3 favored runners in last night,all seemed to be paying a little less than they should have,but they all went ok. Shes had 15 wins so far in the last 12 months,so thats pretty good.

She had that case in 2013,but now days her horses run like she doesn't break any rules.And it looks like she enjoys the success she has. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by the galah

[Chief Stipe]

28 minutes ago, the galah said:

She had that case in 2013,but now days her horses run like she doesn't break any rules.And it looks like she enjoys the success she has.

You don't let up do you?!  The case in 2013 was environmental contamination and the level of the substance was very very low.  It was a metabolite of Tramadol (synthetic morphine) which Chilcott was using for back pain.

The level detected was not even therapeutic let alone performance enhancing.

17] Professor Tobin stated the 100 picograms per millilitre of the metabolite O-desmethyltramadol detected by the Hong Kong laboratory was equivalent to one second in a person’s life if he or she were 320 years old. One picogram was one part per trillion. He added that to his knowledge this was the lowest concentration of O-desmethyltramadol ever reported in a horse. In his opinion, there was no possibility whatsoever of a pharmacological effect on the racing performance of the horse.

[Karrotsisback]

Its funny how peeps read/interpret things different.

I read Galahs post as more so than not, a compliment to Chilcott oppose an attack on her. And Codes post more of a put down.

There are a few trainers doing ok in Waikato region, Donnelley, hobby trainer Chin, among others. 

Thing is Cambridge horses are exactly that, Cambridge horses. Only 1 horse goes home the winner per race. Plus most horses sit at the bottom of the pyramid R40-60.

There is just no way around that. Like humans not all Olympic level. 

Someones got to train them.

[Gammalite]

33 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

42 minutes ago, the galah said:

 

You don't let up do you?!  The case in 2013 was environmental contamination

The Galah would be an awesome Stipe as you know Chief , attention to detail won't get past him. drivers would have No chance with him on the panel !! lol.....

 

2 minutes ago, Karrotsisback said:

Thing is Cambridge horses are exactly that, Cambridge horses.

Funny you should mention that Karrots as was just looking at MIKE BERGER training record . seems fairly moderate for such an experienced trainer . (150 wins past decade from 2000 starters odd) racing in slower grades mainly too.

I was surprised , as he did have fine youngsters one after another in the 80's . being an excellent horseman. Mike did the initial work with LIGHTNING BLUE . He won first up for Mike in a 2 year old race Cambridge summer 1985 a night I was attending , BLUE sold for $40k straight after that win, and I was on plane with Blue flying out shortly after as it panned . Wonder what Mike was thinking when exactly 2 years later (as MY LIGHTNING BLUE) then flew back in to Addington and won the Interdominion Grand Final 87 !!!!!!!  and later that year the NZ CUP  87 !!! 

Yet another fine horseman that prepared horses for someone else to get all the glory. so many NZ trainers have suffered that fate.  

[the galah]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

You don't let up do you?!  The case in 2013 was environmental contamination and the level of the substance was very very low.  It was a metabolite of Tramadol (synthetic morphine) which Chilcott was using for back pain.

The level detected was not even therapeutic let alone performance enhancing.

17] Professor Tobin stated the 100 picograms per millilitre of the metabolite O-desmethyltramadol detected by the Hong Kong laboratory was equivalent to one second in a person’s life if he or she were 320 years old. One picogram was one part per trillion. He added that to his knowledge this was the lowest concentration of O-desmethyltramadol ever reported in a horse. In his opinion, there was no possibility whatsoever of a pharmacological effect on the racing performance of the horse.

You don't let up do you back at you. 

I was referring to her trying to import ittp  from the ukraine that never arrived. That turned out to be a waste of over $1000 for her. And the tb500 given to her by one of her owners. She claimed it was not going to be used on raceday,but in training.Only people like you would believe that. Her lawyer exposed the failings of hrnz rules which meant it was not illegal to possess such substances.

As i said earlier,that was then,and i'm guessing not how she thinks now.

Your the one who can't see the wood for the trees,because you never have your eyes open.

[Chief Stipe]

9 minutes ago, the galah said:

I was referring to her trying to import ittp  from the ukraine that never arrived.

What "CASE" was that?

[Chief Stipe]

10 minutes ago, the galah said:

As i said earlier,that was then,and i'm guessing not how she thinks now.

But you KNOW "how she thinks" then?

[Chief Stipe]

11 minutes ago, the galah said:

Your the one who can't see the wood for the trees,because you never have your eyes open.

Still waiting for an INCA result.

[the galah]

Just now, Chief Stipe said:

What "CASE" was that?

There was plenty of media coverage.

 

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

But you KNOW "how she thinks" then?

I'm not going to go on about it as i think she is operating as an honest,play by the rules trainer. Thats how i perceive her.I think she has learnt from her mistakes.  Giving opinions is what we do on here. Thats mine

[Chief Stipe]

8 minutes ago, the galah said:

I'm not going to go on about it as i think she is operating as an honest,play by the rules trainer. Thats how i perceive her.I think she has learnt from her mistakes.  Giving opinions is what we do on here. Thats mine

If you are being honourable why bring up something that happened 8 years ago?

Yes you are welcome to express you opinion but shouldn't there be a statute of limitations on casting aspersions?

Otherwise you are in the @Thomass rabbit hole banging on about something Kevin Myers said 20 years ago.

Yes express your opinion freely but don't expect everyone to agree with it.  BTW you won't be banned or moderated for it.

[Gammalite]

22 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

38 minutes ago, the galah said:

 

If you are being honourable why bring up something that happened 8 years ago?

hahaha i bring up stuff from 30 years ago all the time, must be Disgracefully dishonourable ? lol....  Things have been going on for years Chief, don't have to sweep under the rug.

Nz trainers are fairly honest , horses get swabbed ,etc ? that's the proof you need. I'm still having difficulty believing the Dunn's got off in 2017 with a fine and having horses disqualified for Caffeine ?? meanwhile the Australian Coulson winning the 1972 Interdominion  with Junior's Image got SEVEN years disqualified for caffeine ?  

OMG i've gone back near fifty years now !!! must be condemned , raving loony , dishonourable now lol...........

[Gammalite]

8 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

he 1972 Interdominion  with Junior's Image got SEVEN years disqualified for caffeine ?

just a minor correction . It was the 1971 Interdominion at Addington that Junior's Image won from the 'promoted ' winner STELLA FROST . a worthy winner anyway off handicap 24yards. 

1974 saw Phil Coulsons sentence reduced by 2 years 10 months , (as probably feeling guilty about the absolute SEVERITY of it all) ,

getting the biggest NZ DQ ever handed out.

But the damage was done , Phil had gone 'fishing' and never recovered from the nobbling of his horse ,such a sad thing. How lucky were the Dunn's then ?   

[Chief Stipe]

Most Trainers are a bit dumb.  For example Bicarb makes zero difference.  The key is to keep your horse healthy, fit and happy.

You can't give them much to go faster than what they are designed or bred to do.

[Chief Stipe]

3 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

But the damage was done , Phil had gone 'fishing' and never recovered from the nobbling of his horse ,such a sad thing. How lucky were the Dunn's then ?   

But what difference did a coffee make?  It takes three before I check out BOAY.

[Gammalite]

26 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

But what difference did a coffee make?  It takes three before I check out BOAY.

With Whippy around you need it !!!!!!!!!!  and I'll raise you 2 bottles of bubbley for the day and only 2 pm here  . where is the Addington tips to help me along ??? 

Just doing Flemington form instead . TOFANE my best , she's a sweety, and has got me buckets in past races. lol

[Gammalite]

5 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

. where is the Addington tips to help me along ???

Well John Dunn won big for me last week and with Classie Brigade from the pole , should nearly win again.

Surprised Sundees Son beaten last week ?? maybe get beat again then ?

John owes me for NED KELLY in the 3rd race. drove it colder than a freezer last week . home he goes today?

Davis (a good judge) and others tipped Sod's Law last week. good 2nd . Wins this week ??

[Karrotsisback]

53 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Most Trainers are a bit dumb. 

Missed this ouch Chief, sic burn.

14 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

freezer

Yip a couple of posters Karrots has put in the freezer. 1 previously & 1 just very recently. Bet Gamms knows who lol. 

22 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

and I'll raise you 2 bottles of bubbley for the day and only 2 pm here  . where is the Addington tips to help me along ??? 

Was just looking, still not ready to do my place punting yet. See a couple but 1 isn't paying enough & other not keen on the driver. So won't punish myself.

Oh you drinking Gamms. Wont mind 1 either, but have to wait in a long line, with mask & all, too much trouble to bother atm. 

Edited September 10, 2021 by Karrotsisback

[Forbury]

33 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

With Whippy around you need it !!!!!!!!!!  and I'll raise you 2 bottles of bubbley for the day and only 2 pm here  . where is the Addington tips to help me along ??? 

Just doing Flemington form instead . TOFANE my best , she's a sweety, and has got me buckets in past races. lol

Try John Morrison on glenthorne a improvement in driver lol.regarding Nicki no grass racing must have a affect as she was good at that and same with Jay and Salish.try converge at kembla

Edited September 10, 2021 by Forbury
I'm bad

[Gammalite]

9 minutes ago, Karrotsisback said:

Oh you drinking Gamms. Wont mind 1 either, but have to wait in a long line,

and enjoying with fathers day camembert and a lovely 28 degree Qld day , now ready for some winners !!!

Has Brodster Ever tipped winners here ? can't recall any. High strike rate from Gamma with both QLD derbies Kukeracha galloping and American Dealer pacing tipped , along the AMAZING dream . how can you lose with experts like this around the place.?lol

3 minutes ago, Forbury said:

Try John Morrison on glenthorne a improvement in driver

Thanks Forbs !!! i'll be on the quinella with Big bad John on NED KELLY , in that case . 

[Forbury]

1 minute ago, Gammalite said:

and enjoying with fathers day camembert and a lovely 28 degree Qld day , now ready for some winners !!!

Has Brodster Ever tipped winners here ? can't recall any. High strike rate from Gamma with both QLD derbies Kukeracha galloping and American Dealer pacing tipped , along the AMAZING dream . how can you lose with experts like this around the place.?lol

Thanks Forbs !!! i'll be on the quinella with Big bad John on NED KELLY , in that case . 

Me too just escaped to North qld.it is hot

[Karrotsisback]

3 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

lovely 28 degree Qld day 

Has Brodster Ever tipped winners here ? can't recall any. High strike rate from Gamma with both QLD derbies Kukeracha galloping and American Dealer pacing tipped , along the AMAZING dream . how can you lose with experts like this around the place.?lol

Thanks Forbs !!! i'll be on the quinella with Big bad John on NED KELLY , in that case . 

Nice for some. Sounds bliss.

Re Brods - no-shows. Suspect due to 'always being on the money - in his mind'. Cant openly tip the big place punt on here, due to fact if possibly get it wrong, would never hear the end of it lol. 

Forbs is back. Hello Forbs. You not in Karrots freezer. Might be in others tho lol.