Happy Sunrise Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Brodie said: What I would say CrossCodes is that you would be one of the very few people living in this world that has never ever had any type of rascist thought, whether they expressed it or not!!!!! I have met plenty of people of different ethnicity in my time. I have thought a few of them have been arseholes. However, the arsehole bit has never had anything to do with their ethnicity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 17 hours ago, Brodie said: How would you appreciate this crap being in the media if it was your child? If it were my child, the bollocking he'd get from me would make the Press article look like a Nobel Peace Prize! What would you do Brodie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 23 hours ago, Brodie said: Basil, you are totally incorrect on several scores. Brodie, as you well know, having received valuable advice from me on many occasions, Basil is never incorrect!? In this case, you seem to think I'm incorrect about something I never said while agreeing that I'm correct about something I did. This is a whole new meaning of "totally incorrect on several scores". As my old science teacher used to say (in my case, frequently!), "Use your swede boy!"? And I'm still waiting to hear what these "undulating (sic) circumstances" might be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 50 minutes ago, Basil said: Brodie, as you well know, having received valuable advice from me on many occasions, Basil is never incorrect!? In this case, you seem to think I'm incorrect about something I never said while agreeing that I'm correct about something I did. This is a whole new meaning of "totally incorrect on several scores". As my old science teacher used to say (in my case, frequently!), "Use your swede boy!"? And I'm still waiting to hear what these "undulating (sic) circumstances" might be. basil not sure on why we have spent so much time on this topic i actually know bronson and find him a likable chap as far i see take the rugby case out of this and solely look at the trotting incident, what i can see is he should be guilty of stupidity for yelling abuse in front of the stewards and public if it would have happened in the back straight nothing would be said how many drivers have yelled at other drivers for interfering with them during the race and nothing said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, wally said: take the rugby case out of this But you can't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 From the ODT. Prominant female trainers and drivers have denied speculation the New Zealand harness racing industry is a sexist workplace. The treatment of women in harness racing has come under scrutiny recently after Canterbury junior driver Bronson Munro was charged with verbally abusing two female drivers during and after a race at Forbury Park last month. Southland trainer-driver Kirstin Barclay, Waikato trainer-driver Nicky Chilcott and Canterbury junior driver Kimberly Butt said New Zealand harness racing provided a fair and safe working environment. Butt, in her fifth season of driving, said she had not been disadvantaged in the sport because she was a woman. ``I don't think there is any disadvantage being a female and I honestly never experienced anything to say that it is.'' Barclay said she did not think sexism was prevalent in harness racing and that the southern industry was a welcome and safe place to work. ``I look forward to going to the races and catching up with everyone, especially in Southland because everyone is pretty much like family. Everyone gets along and there is always someone there for a laugh and a yarn and they just want to help you out.'' Chilcott said harness racing now provided a fair and equitable workplace. However, that was not the case when she started in the industry in 1993. ``Back then it was really hard, it really was. I really struggled to get accepted and used to cop crap left, right and centre. ``But now, I personally don't have any trouble and think it is pretty even.'' Chilcott has been a pioneer for females in harness racing. She is one of the country's most successful female trainers and the only woman to drive 500 winners in New Zealand. Abusive remarks were thrown at Chilcott on the track in the 1990s, but she was determined to push on. ``It was hard. The guys on the track, you would cop heaps of crap like `Get back to the kitchen where you belong'. ``I would be lying if I didn't say I didn't have moments when I would ball my eyes out thinking `Is this all worth it?''' Barclay and Butt said verbal altercations were part of being a modern driver. ``I think it is part and parcel of any sport. In the heat of the moment things are said,'' Barclay said. ``In my career there have probably been five occasions when something has been said and I have thought `Stuff you' and I would give it back. ``But I would give it back as good as the boys would. ``Most of the time if I have been dished up on the track it would be if I had done something wrong and it would be no different to what has been dished up to anyone else.'' Butt said it was natural for drivers racing at high speeds vying for positions in a race to air their frustrations. ``Everyone has done that with someone at some point and I'd say what happens on the track stays on the track,'' she said ``It is one of those games where you are vying for positions or wanting the lead or something like that and you have to be aggressive.'' Barclay and Butt said there could be rare cases in harness racing in which it could be an advantage to be a female driver. Those cases included the advantage a horse could get from a lightweight woman driver on a rain-affected grass track. In some cases horses were more inclined to run favourably for female drivers than male drivers. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: Barclay and Butt said verbal altercations were part of being a modern driver. ``I think it is part and parcel of any sport. In the heat of the moment things are said,'' Barclay said. ``In my career there have probably been five occasions when something has been said and I have thought `Stuff you' and I would give it back. ``But I would give it back as good as the boys would. ``Most of the time if I have been dished up on the track it would be if I had done something wrong and it would be no different to what has been dished up to anyone else.'' Butt said it was natural for drivers racing at high speeds vying for positions in a race to air their frustrations. ``Everyone has done that with someone at some point and I'd say what happens on the track stays on the track,'' she said Says it all really, storm in a tea cup, stirred up because Bronson had previous form, same thing on the rugby field, but people nowadays have paper thin skins.....good on the girls! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Basil said: If it were my child, the bollocking he'd get from me would make the Press article look like a Nobel Peace Prize! What would you do Brodie? Hey basil how about you tell Neil face to face what you would do if bronson was your son ad see how good you would go! 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: Hey basil how about you tell Neil face to face what you would do if bronson was your son ad see how good you would go! are you saying like father like son 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Rangatira said: are you saying like father like son Rangatira I am going to give you a big stirring spoon for xmas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rangatira said: are you saying like father like son Now you have overstepped the mark Rangatira!!! Stay on the other side, you are being pathetic. Kimberley Butt has spelt it out clearly, there is more to this story but it won’t be published! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Basil said: Brodie, as you well know, having received valuable advice from me on many occasions, Basil is never incorrect!? In this case, you seem to think I'm incorrect about something I never said while agreeing that I'm correct about something I did. This is a whole new meaning of "totally incorrect on several scores". As my old science teacher used to say (in my case, frequently!), "Use your swede boy!"? And I'm still waiting to hear what these "undulating (sic) circumstances" might be. Ask the people in the know Basil! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brodie said: Now you have overstepped the mark Rangatira!!! Stay on the other side, you are being pathetic. Kimberley Butt has spelt it out clearly, there is more to this story but it won’t be published! what was your interpretation of what bloss said brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Rangatira I am going to give you a big stirring spoon for xmas? very kind of you it could be handy on here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, Rangatira said: are you saying like father like son Not saying that at all. But I am saying is basil does not have the balls to tell either Neil or bronson his opinion on the subject. as for what Brodie is saying why don't you go back to your mate on the other channel and pull your helmet with him! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Brodie said: Ask the people in the know Basil! A lot of what happened after the race was written on the harness owners Facebook page. No one can defend bronson' actions but what a lot are saying is that another driver should be facing similar charges. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: Not saying that at all. But I am saying is basil does not have the balls to tell either Neil or bronson his opinion on the subject. as for what Brodie is saying why don't you go back to your mate on the other channel and pull your helmet with him! that was his opinion that he posted on here i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Come on guys let's keep it nice, we're not on race café now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On a lighter note, this is comedy gold from "The Diceman" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman's Been Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I'd like to get my hands on THAT Diceman. Mouthy bugger he is. Nothing like me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Diceman's Been said: I'd like to get my hands on THAT Diceman. Mouthy bugger he is. Nothing like me. Lock up your daughter's! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Blossom lady said: A lot of what happened after the race was written on the harness owners Facebook page. can you screenshot it or copy onto here so we can see it. It is in the public domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Ask the people in the know Basil! Basil has, but you will not supply the information despite him asking you. Edited July 24, 2018 by Happy Sunrise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Basil has, but you will not supply the information despite him asking you. Happy, The people that were oncourse at a Forbury that night know what happen. I am not going to post it on here because it could have repercussions for some! Kimberley Butt has stated that all was not one way that night, but Bronson has been vilified in the media just because there was a story in it due to his previous unwanted lress. Happy, there is racism shown at many sporting events but are never released to the media! racism 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzenza365 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I am pleased i no longer are involved in Racing, I would be on on the permanent suspension list. This is nothing but a storm in a teacup. Even the RIU/JCA must know that in the heat of competition, or even driving along the Highway, people let their emotions go when something untoward happens in front of them.Everybody would be guilty at one time of blasting the horn and yelling explicit language when someone servers in front of you. Other than making a post,it should be out to bed 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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