holy ravioli Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 Good to see that Trentham times are still a laughing stock after all these years..you can go back to Blueblood's 'world' record..decades ..ago! 1 Quote
Guest Whyisit Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 How do get a world record ? Start the race 11 m short. What a laugh. Starter get fined nah Race 8 JR & N BERKETT TELEGRAPH (G1) 1200 Stewards inquired into the time of this race. It was found that the barriers had been positioned approximately 11 metres forward of the 1200 metre start at the 3200 metre start, which was not clearly marked. Stewards reminded Starter G Philips of his obligation with regard to ensuring that the barriers are positioned at the correct start point for each race. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 22, 2022 Author Posted January 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Whyisit said: How do get a world record ? Start the race 11 m short. What a laugh. Starter get fined nah Race 8 JR & N BERKETT TELEGRAPH (G1) 1200 Stewards inquired into the time of this race. It was found that the barriers had been positioned approximately 11 metres forward of the 1200 metre start at the 3200 metre start, which was not clearly marked. Stewards reminded Starter G Philips of his obligation with regard to ensuring that the barriers are positioned at the correct start point for each race. Still they broke 1:07 Quote
Chimbu Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 From today's stipe's report. Read it & weep. GENERAL The timing mechanism for Race 1,2 and 3 was activated by hand. Quote
nomates Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, Chimbu said: From today's stipe's report. Read it & weep. GENERAL The timing mechanism for Race 1,2 and 3 was activated by hand. They have some real issues there , along with the state of the track things are a bit amateurish , not a good look for one of our supposed metropolitan tracks . 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 23, 2022 Author Posted January 23, 2022 22 hours ago, Whyisit said: How do get a world record ? Start the race 11 m short. What a laugh. Starter get fined nah Race 8 JR & N BERKETT TELEGRAPH (G1) 1200 Stewards inquired into the time of this race. It was found that the barriers had been positioned approximately 11 metres forward of the 1200 metre start at the 3200 metre start, which was not clearly marked. Stewards reminded Starter G Philips of his obligation with regard to ensuring that the barriers are positioned at the correct start point for each race. So have they been racing over 3211m or 3189m for the 3200m? 1 Quote
Joe Bloggs Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Well we used to have the Victoria Amateur Turf Club at Caulfield so it's reasonable to expect the Wellington Amateur Racing Club isn't it? 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 24, 2022 Author Posted January 24, 2022 On 23/01/2022 at 5:35 PM, Chief Stipe said: So have they been racing over 3211m or 3189m for the 3200m? Actually thinking about this the circumference of the main track can't be an even number. What is the actual circumference of the track? Quote
curious Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Actually thinking about this the circumference of the main track can't be an even number. What is the actual circumference of the track? Must be 2011m based on what they said musn't it? Edited January 25, 2022 by curious Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, curious said: Must be 2011m based on what they said musn't it? I'm not sure that works when you consider where the markers are. The 2000m marker is well before the winning post ie. The track is less than 2000m in circumference. Quote
curious Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 I don't think they have a 2000 start point do they? If you look at the start of the Trentham Stakes though it's definitely closer to the post than the 100 marker. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, curious said: I don't think they have a 2000 start point do they? If you look at the start of the Trentham Stakes though it's definitely closer to the post than the 100 marker. Well it is interesting. Equally bizarre that it is hard to find anything official anywhere. I would have thought that this would be great information for a punter and with today's technology so easy to do. LOL makes you wonder if they have the track and rail distance markers set up correctly. Perhaps the errant Jockeys could appeal their whip infringements on a technicality. 1 Quote
curious Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 The last 100 is clearly marked. I doubt any of the inside markers are precise. They are only a guide and on many tracks could be 10 or 20m out depending where the rail is. The actual start points are marked on the rail for the rail position used for the meeting. You can clearly see that for the 2100 start. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, curious said: The last 100 is clearly marked. I doubt any of the inside markers are precise. They are only a guide and on many tracks could be 10 or 20m out depending where the rail is. The actual start points are marked on the rail for the rail position used for the meeting. You can clearly see that for the 2100 start. Then sectionals are basically inaccurate nonsense? 1 Quote
curious Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Then sectionals are basically inaccurate nonsense? Why? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, curious said: Why? Wouldn't they depend on an accurate marker? Or have I missed something and there are GPS in every saddle? Quote
curious Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Yes. But sectionals have been electronically timed for probably two decades. From memory Ellerslie and maybe Riccarton started using them in the early 2000s They are measured by a timing device on the rail at the exact say 600 point triggered when the first horse passes that point and again at the finish line. That of course only captures the first horse to pass those points. The other horse sectionals are calculated based on their distance from that horse and the relative speed that the sectional is run. Neil Davis could probably explain it better but I don't see how you could possibly use a marker on the outside fence 30m away from the rail for that purpose. Edited January 25, 2022 by curious Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 25, 2022 Author Posted January 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, curious said: Yes. But sectionals have been electronically timed for probably two decades. From memory Ellerslie and maybe Riccarton started using them in the early 2000s They are measured by a timing device on the rail at the exact say 600 point triggered when the first horse passes that point and again at the finish line. That of course only captures the first horse to pass those points. The other horse sectionals are calculated based on their distance from that horse and the relative speed that the sectional is run. Neil Davis could probably explain it better but I don't see how you could possibly use a marker on the outside fence 30m away from the rail for that purpose. Eh? Yet the 1200m start can only be hand timed? Quote
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