Rotorua Abandoned

[Huey]

9 minutes ago, nomates said:

. Keep going moth balling tracks like this and racing will be put on hold until Auckland has laid it's flash new track then racing twice a week there .

 

That's probably the idea.

[Joe Bloggs]

You can sum up NZTR with three letters, just three...........N F I 

[nomates]

1 hour ago, Huey said:

That's probably the idea.

Whilst it was tongue in cheek , i have said for a while that centralisation as in north of Taupo is the end game , that is racing of any real substance .

[curious]

9 hours ago, nomates said:

Whilst it was tongue in cheek , i have said for a while that centralisation as in north of Taupo is the end game , that is racing of any real substance .

The end game? Or the end of the game?

[Huey]

1 hour ago, curious said:

The end game? Or the end of the game?

Here is the real end game

A manufactured Asset Grab.

 

"But the repeated failure of some tracks to measure up to the required standard will only boost calls for more track closures, especially when struggling tracks could in some cases be sold for tens of millions and their clubs, and the overall industry, use that money to hold vastly enriched meetings as tenants at other tracks."

[Chief Stipe]

34 minutes ago, Huey said:

But the repeated failure of some tracks to measure up to the required standard will only boost calls for more track closures,

Namely Riccarton, Te Rapa, Awapuni and Trentham.

[nomates]

The circle of life at NZTR , Otaki track being inspected this morning , Waverly nom's left open till lunchtime . That's great , so those 2yo's that miss an opportunity at black type can nom for a mdn instead .

[Joe Bloggs]

Why would you bother to become an owner in the CD? Hope to buggery it's a long smooth spring/summer, I bet the folk at IRT and NZB are rubbing their hands with glee, lots of new clients booking their Oz sojourn........

[nomates]

Otaki gone , Ryder Stakes to be run at Te Rapa on Saturday , no other CD track available . Turn the lights off , lock the door and don't look back . Actually don't bother locking the door , there is fuck all worth taking .

How many CD black type races been moved north this season ?

 

 

Can you hear that ,,,,, listen very hard , it's coming , closer , closer , can you hear it now , CETRALISATION !!!!! 

[Huey]

35 minutes ago, nomates said:

The circle of life at NZTR , Otaki track being inspected this morning , Waverly nom's left open till lunchtime . That's great , so those 2yo's that miss an opportunity at black type can nom for a mdn instead .

Nope, they now get the opportunity to race at Te Rapa , because no alternative tracks available , its now just pure comedy! 

Where is Bernard Saundry when you need him around to enjoy the fruits of his labour!

[nomates]

The open stayers race also gone so now if you have a horse rated higher than 74 no race for you till Wanganui in 5 weeks . Shouldn't have been 5 weeks between Otaki and Wanganui anyway but some horses will be 7/8 weeks between races .

[curious]

Otaki abandoned. At least we got some notice.

[Doomed]

8 minutes ago, nomates said:

The open stayers race also gone so now if you have a horse rated higher than 74 no race for you till Wanganui in 5 weeks . Shouldn't have been 5 weeks between Otaki and Wanganui anyway but some horses will be 7/8 weeks between races .

Anyone with an open stayer could just pop them over a few hurdles to see if they can jump and send them down to Riccarton; they will be pleased to see them.

[Doomed]

If all this keeps going on surely there is massive incentive to get that CD AWT up and running.  Although interestingly, amidst all these bog tracks and abandoned meetings there are two maiden races on a guaranteed good track at Riccarton with only 5 noms in each.

[Joe Bloggs]

And to think there are people/owners out there paying training fees?  Petone might just be a tad nervous now, the rumblings are getting louder and it's not an earthquake, just discontent, then again if Discontent and Apathy was a horse race in NZ, my money would be on Apathy to win by panels......except for a few brave souls on here not afraid to let it rip, it's where it is simply because of apathy, and that's shameful in itself......so we reap what we sow.

[nomates]

6 minutes ago, Doomed said:

If all this keeps going on surely there is massive incentive to get that CD AWT up and running.  Although interestingly, amidst all these bog tracks and abandoned meetings there are two maiden races on a guaranteed good track at Riccarton with only 5 noms in each.

It won't make a shred of difference , very few of the horses that were going to run at Otaki would run on the A/W . This is what the powers that be don't get , the Otaki runners need the wet track . Every year they run more and more A/W races the fewer wet track horses will be persevered with , which then becomes an ever decreasing pool of horses . The solution is and always has been fix the tracks up that we wanted to use the most in winter so they could handle winter racing . The 45mil spent on 3 A/W's is completely wasted in the battle to sort out NZ racing . 

If they had had a plan of track resurfacing over the past 10 even 20 years we would not be in this position , their whole long term solution to track maintenance has been patch and repair , all on a reactionary basis , as in when there is a slip in a race or surface flooding . 

There has been a complete lack of forward planning in NZ racing for decades , particularly regarding tracks but in all facets of our racing .

As much as it pains me , centralisation of the majority of the important racing to the north is a forgone conclusion , timeframe is the only question . Whether it happens because of a covert plan by NZTR and the " consortium " is irrelevant , the attrition of owners and horses , especially in the CD and the quality of the majority of SI horses is making quality racing impossible in these jurisdictions .

The money is north of Taupo as are the majority of quality horses , it makes sense .

It's all too late to reverse this process .

I would love someone to come on here and tell me that i am completely wrong and here is how it can be done , i'm not too proud to say i am wrong and they are right , happily say it .

[nomates]

To prove my point regarding the CD numbers , with Otaki gone and Waverley left open they still can't fill one field at Waverly to capacity , i would suggest numbers at both meetings might have been quite light . Time perhaps for one meeting per week in the CD , running more races . Tracks used less and have more time to recover .

[Joe Bloggs]

Wouldn't have happened if someone was held to account.......no accountability, no good governance and most importantly, no transparency.

There should have been root and branch reform years ago, but life was too good for a few, and now it's too late. The invited and anointed  Aussies got rich ,as did the useless Pom, the Hoi Poloi got poorer, emotionally and financially, what a fucking tragedy.

[Joe Bloggs]

4 minutes ago, nomates said:

To prove my point regarding the CD numbers , with Otaki gone and Waverley left open they still can't fill one field at Waverly to capacity , i would suggest numbers at both meetings might have been quite light . Time perhaps for one meeting per week in the CD , running more races . Tracks used less and have more time to recover .

Give yourself an uppercut, stop making sense, it's bloody irritating......

[nomates]

9 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Give yourself an uppercut, stop making sense, it's bloody irritating......

Not another one , i'm still recovering from the one i gave myself for backing a tip i got given yesterday , i'm afraid my glass chin wouldn't take another .

[Doomed]

39 minutes ago, nomates said:

To prove my point regarding the CD numbers , with Otaki gone and Waverley left open they still can't fill one field at Waverly to capacity , i would suggest numbers at both meetings might have been quite light . Time perhaps for one meeting per week in the CD , running more races . Tracks used less and have more time to recover .

I did think the same myself. I suspect the Otaki noms would have been shocking, so they were probably quite happy to abandon it.

[nomates]

12 minutes ago, Doomed said:

I did think the same myself. I suspect the Otaki noms would have been shocking, so they were probably quite happy to abandon it.

I would have thought the easy solution was xfer the Otaki meeting to Waverley on Saturday , they done that for the Castletown Stakes meeting . Just add some of the Saturday races to the Waverley programme . Too easy or too obvious maybe . Or as you suggest quite happy to save the stakes .

Also how many of the northern runners now nom'd for the Ryder at Te Rapa would have travelled to the CD for the race ?

[Huey]

51 minutes ago, nomates said:

I would have thought the easy solution was xfer the Otaki meeting to Waverley on Saturday , they done that for the Castletown Stakes meeting . Just add some of the Saturday races to the Waverley programme . Too easy or too obvious maybe . Or as you suggest quite happy to save the stakes .

Also how many of the northern runners now nom'd for the Ryder at Te Rapa would have travelled to the CD for the race ?

The easy solution and common sense solution, substituting a Saturday meeting for a Thursday meeting(when that is an option) in terms of interest and wagering turnover is just plain dumb , even by their incredibly low standards!

[Huey]

1 hour ago, nomates said:

To prove my point regarding the CD numbers , with Otaki gone and Waverley left open they still can't fill one field at Waverly to capacity , i would suggest numbers at both meetings might have been quite light . Time perhaps for one meeting per week in the CD , running more races . Tracks used less and have more time to recover .

Sometimes those noms don' t update till overnight online , so I'd expect some larger fields.

But look at the programming again, we have a 3yo 1400m (initially 5 ir 6 noms) a week before these horses are 4yos and no mdn 1400m race , it isn't rocket science to work out how to get better field sizes in some instances. 

[Doomed]

I do have a lot of sympathy for the CD owners and trainers missing out on all these black type races, but you do really wonder whether we should be running two listed 2yo races in the CD in the middle of winter on bog tracks. If the horses are genuine black type 2yos perhaps get them going a few months earlier and target something in the autumn.