Brodie Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Surely this shows that our tighter assessed horses are the weakest they have ever been ? Heza Sport a good promising horse but you would not have thought that it could gallop away, and first up still beat those other ones gunning for a cup start automatically! Good runs by the Geoff Dunn runners but seriously we seem to be lacking the class horses we were used to! Think I still prefer the loose class racing, far easier to pick! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Brodie said: Surely this shows that our tighter assessed horses are the weakest they have ever been ? Heza Sport a good promising horse but you would not have thought that it could gallop away, and first up still beat those other ones gunning for a cup start automatically! Good runs by the Geoff Dunn runners but seriously we seem to be lacking the class horses we were used to! Think I still prefer the loose class racing, far easier to pick! A great competitive spectacle last night in that race. A 6 win horse with only 15 starts comes out and wins. That type of horse winning in years gone by would have been very unique. The time they went,and the way they ran the race,should have some effect on some of the less race fit horses.Wouldn't have been ideal.I know addington is an extremely fast track,but there were some tired horses and some reasonable gaps at the finish. There is a reason that race is normally such a tame affair.Those running in it want to have runs that help them get fitter,without over exerting.Still great to see everyone try so hard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 13 hours ago, Brodie said: Good runs by the Geoff Dunn runners but seriously we seem to be lacking the class horses we were used to! 3 hours ago, the galah said: A 6 win horse with only 15 starts comes out and wins. That type of horse winning in years gone by would have been very unique. Interesting as wasn't that long ago you had to have 10 wins to be in the NZ Cup. The Falcon with his close 2nd last night, also has only had 6 wins. But is very dour like stable-mate Laver .(9 wins to date) Davis rates these 2 horses highly , so I like them. Geoff and James Dunn a strong hand if they can qualify them both. (Laver 6th last year in the Cup in 4.00) if he can improve 2 seconds on that is in with a show. Bit of Stable team work ? with The Falcon, and a Rigid 'Set for the Race' Training and racing schedule >>>>>>>>> leads to having a shot at the Quinella in the Big race .???? 'Marky Boy' Purdon will be in the road a bit with SA , but sometimes you can get a bit of roadkill (like last year) if it's your lucky day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Lochinvar Art 28 wins $1,404,556 Self assured 26 wins $1,777,581 Copy that 24 wins $968,574 Majestic cruiser 22 wins $566,403 Spankem 21 wins $1,816,854 Classie brigade 21 wins $595,207 Krug 17 wins $694,003 Henry Hubert 14 wins $368,738 South coast Arden 13 wins $490,622 Cranbourne 12 wins $103,308 AG’s Whitesocks 12 wins $585,453 Pembrook playboy 11 wins $169,000 Kango 10 wins $217,032 Hot and treacherous 10 wins $225,190 Bad to the bone 10 wins $307,772 Laver 9 wins $150,795 Smiffy’s Terror 8 wins $84,486 Altawise guy? 8 wins $136,573 AllAmericanlover 8 wins $102,132 Hezasport 7 wins $80,540 Bd joe 7 wins $212,227 Heisenberg 7 wins $210,178 Di caprio 7 wins $94,212 The falcon 6 wins $134,082 Old town road 6 wins $56,160 Christianshavtime 6 wins $43,450 Steel the show 6 wins $141,928 Terry 6 wins $59,712 Coravally star 6 wins $92,809 Akuta? 8 wins $450,580 Franco indie 6 wins $159,374 One change? 18 wins $643, 451 personally I think if most these horses make it to the cup in top form then it’s going to be a very good competitive race. So very good stayers In this line up which should make for a genuine race. At least the top 25 are all at a minimum placed at group level multiple times It was a very good staying race last night , & that horse (Hezasport) has always been a nice horse & after a freshen up he showed he’s come back as a genuine open class type. Some horses just take a bit to adjust to racing the big guns a lot of the horses that will be racing in the cup are still yet to step out this season, so you hardly can say it’s not a nice bunch. There’s some very very good horses racing & last year people said the same, but 80% of the field had won over ten races. It’s probably more a reflection that it’s hard to win ten races. For example one of our 3 win horses had to race copy that last week, and he raced well but it becomes hard for him to get to ten wins when he’s straight in to an open class field after a handful of starts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/26/2022 at 8:49 PM, Brodie said: Surely this shows that our tighter assessed horses are the weakest they have ever been ? Heza Sport a good promising horse but you would not have thought that it could gallop away, and first up still beat those other ones gunning for a cup start automatically! Good runs by the Geoff Dunn runners but seriously we seem to be lacking the class horses we were used to! Think I still prefer the loose class racing, far easier to pick! No, you are wrong my old mate. Heza Sport galloped but didn't lose any ground and more importantly didn't cover any extra ground. That was the difference at the end of the race. The win was no surprise if you saw the trial two weeks ago (I did), where Heza Sport beat The Falcon and Laver in a sizzling time. That trial was the pointer for Friday's race. Heza Sport drew well and that made the difference in the end because he got qa couple of lengths on The Falcon. The Robert Dunn horses were well beaten. The likes of Heisenberg are good horses but not top liners. Heza Sport, Laver and The Falcon are better horses than them now. The Dunn team driving tactics were nullified too which was very good to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Davis said: No, you are wrong my old mate. Heza Sport galloped but didn't lose any ground and more importantly didn't cover any extra ground. That was the difference at the end of the race. The win was no surprise if you saw the trial two weeks ago (I did), where Heza Sport beat The Falcon and Laver in a sizzling time. That trial was the pointer for Friday's race. Heza Sport drew well and that made the difference in the end because he got qa couple of lengths on The Falcon. The Robert Dunn horses were well beaten. The likes of Heisenberg are good horses but not top liners. Heza Sport, Laver and The Falcon are better horses than them now. The Dunn team driving tactics were nullified too which was very good to see. You are correct he didnt cover any extra ground by being on the fence, but he did lose ground at the start from his gallop,@# he was 3rd last early on! Yes he did go very well at the trials the previous week as did Sporty Charlie. It doesnt really worry me too much as I dont invest on tight class racing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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