Thomass Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 So Kenny says... "well those f'ers...we paid the contractors to do the same as they did last time...but this time they got confused and put 3CMS of sand on instead of 4 MM" wtf?? This is just typical of the f in amatuer hour that's NZ Racing. NZTR should have control of all track maintenance programs ffs. Then you won't get this b/s of "the contractors did this when we said that...and we're taking them to court" There needs to be central control on tracks..approved and ticked off with accepted processes to ultimately cover quality control principles... Gary Foskett used to do it...why is the industry allowing possible f ups like this to still occur? And it's a major f up this.. ..even in Bogan country... 3CMS and 4MM's is massive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Then whose fault is the following? Meeting News Waikato Trials Tuesday 21 August The trials to be conducted on the trials track at Te Rapa on Tuesday will be for Open and Maiden horses (over 900m and 1100m) and will have a maximum of 6 horses per heat with the trials restricted to a total of 120 horses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 it was told by the course manger ad it was the wrong grade sand to been like this for a number of months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxie Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, gee said: it was told by the course manger ad it was the wrong grade sand to been like this for a number of months So where was the "course manager" when the work was being done? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boxie said: So where was the "course manager" when the work was being done? awol and still is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Dwarf Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Will he be back for Saturday's sandblasting competition or the one 15 days afterwards ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 To be fair it was always going to end in disaster as there is only so many times you can sand slit a track. Te Rapa has been "off" for a number of years now. The remedy worked initially but you can't keep repeating it. Is Ellerslie heading down the same Sandy path? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 59 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: To be fair it was always going to end in disaster as there is only so many times you can sand slit a track. Te Rapa has been "off" for a number of years now. The remedy worked initially but you can't keep repeating it. Is Ellerslie heading down the same Sandy path? Not if they only sand slit it AND don’t sand carpet it as well. The difference is: Te Rapa and Awapuni were both Sand Slit and Sand Carpeted. The large amounts of sand put on, then in time, blocks the drains too, i.e. both courses above. Trentham on the other hand was sand slit about 8 or 9 years ago BUT not sand carpeted because they couldn’t afford it. Weren’t they BLOODY LUCKY because it’s the best surface in the country now from October to April, when if it does rain, it recovers extremely quickly, unlike before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Beau, sand is one of the very best drainage materials, the very reason it is used is to encourage easy drainage rather than block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It is usually silt(very fine particulate matter) that blocks drains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Wasn't long ago Ken was going to shut every other course down wasn't he and base everything out of Te Rapa? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Reefton said: Wasn't long ago Ken was going to shut every other course down wasn't he and base everything out of Te Rapa? yup lol might his 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 What's the problem ? They have spent a million on the inside interior and looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Reefton said: Wasn't long ago Ken was going to shut every other course down wasn't he and base everything out of Te Rapa? This is what worries me about the Messara report, closing down tracks is invariably going to be a major part of it and the ones that will be likely closed should be being better utilised by the industry in the first place. I think one of NZ problems is you have persons in positions who are happy to over race their tracks to justify their positions instead of someone taking a more linear view and trying to get the best out of what is available. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Huey said: This is what worries me about the Messara report, closing down tracks is invariably going to be a major part of it and the ones that will be likely closed should be being better utilised by the industry in the first place. I think one of NZ problems is you have persons in positions who are happy to over race their tracks to justify their positions instead of someone taking a more linear view and trying to get the best out of what is available. I don't think the report will recommend closing any tracks. It will be all about money and a sustainable way ahead, and I can't see how closing down tracks will have any impact on either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 What I don't understand about the Te Rapa fiasco is why, when they realised the sand over-application error, they didn't vacuum it back off and start over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, curious said: What I don't understand about the Te Rapa fiasco is why, when they realised the sand over-application error, they didn't vacuum it back off and start over? Good point, it suggests that no one realised it was a mistake, until the problems started occurring, too late then It was only then that it became apparent they had made a mistake. I see Ken Rutherford saying 2 inches of sand was applied over the middle section of the track. That's a lot of sand, and would have partially covered the turf grasses Edited August 20, 2018 by hesi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 This is sounding like so much bullshit...2 inches of sand? was nobody watching? Did the useless riu do a track inspection on the morning of the races? come on, this club calls itself a metropolitan racecourse...more like a feckin metropolitan icecream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I fail to see how no-one could have noticed an application of 2 inches of sand to the centre of the track as you say. If not while it was being applied, surely within 24 hours. If I were getting 4mm of sand applied to my lawn and they put on 50mms, I'd be on the phone no later than daylight the next day. Doesn't add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Here's the audio of Ken Rutherford speaking, thanks Curious http://www.nzracing.co.nz/News/25374/Audio-Ken-Rutherford.aspx He probably wishes he was still opening the batting, at least then he had control of his own fate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, curious said: I fail to see how no-one could have noticed an application of 2 inches of sand to the centre of the track as you say. If not while it was being applied, surely within 24 hours. If I were getting 4mm of sand applied to my lawn and they put on 50mms, I'd be on the phone no later than daylight the next day. Doesn't add up. Suggests no one was project managing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 He's playing much more like the bottom of the order. Maybe 12th man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Played and missed, you might say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, hesi said: Suggests no one was project managing If I were still riding track work, I can't imagine I wouldn't have noticed 2 inches of sand on the main track, even if riding two or three tracks inside that. The whole thing is completely implausible. The interview simply conspired with the bs and never raised the obvious 'how come no-one noticed?' question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, hesi said: Played and missed, you might say No. That description is reserved for Jackson. Think we'll just call him 12th man Rutherford. Wonder if he ever batted or kept on a pitch that had just had 50mms of sand applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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