Chief Stipe Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 BOAY members - please post your questions that you would like Winnie and Messara to answer next week at the announcement. BOAY will forward them to both presenters prior to the announcement. Quote
hesi Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Firstly, can you clarify if Messara will be present, it does not specify if he will Secondly, the contents of the report, may answer many of the questions posed?? Quote
curious Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 I don't see how we can pose questions about a report we haven't seen. Will that be released prior to the Q&A session so that informed questions can be presented to Winnie and Messara (if in fact the latter is also going to be there)? If not, the whole thing seems a bit pointless. 2 2 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 Given what we have been drip fed so far about AWT's can't we pre-empt what is in the report to support them? Quote
hesi Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, curious said: I don't see how we can pose questions about a report we haven't seen. Will that be released prior to the Q&A session so that informed questions can be presented to Winnie and Messara (if in fact the latter is also going to be there)? If not, the whole thing seems a bit pointless. You do raise a good point though about the logistics The report is released at the meeting, followed by a Q+A, so it does not give much of a chance for people to read the report and digest, if in fact they are even going to provide a report copy to all attendees 1 Quote
curious Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Serendipitously, I'll be there and could go. Probably won't bother though if I don't have the report to digest a couple of days before at least. Be a complete waste of time. 1 Quote
Hard Times Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Things have been rather vague about the propose AWT. Gallops only? Combined facilities? One turn dog tracks included? 1 Quote
hesi Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, curious said: Serendipitously, I'll be there and could go. Probably won't bother though if I don't have the report to digest a couple of days before at least. Be a complete waste of time. Therein lies the problem Releasing the report a few days prior to the meeting, takes away Peter's thunder, so that won't happen. Really need a double session meeting, presentation of the report, summary style, release copies, dinner etc, then Q+A session Edited August 21, 2018 by hesi Quote
Weasel Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 It's clearly ridiculous to expect sensible questions to come immediately after Winnie's speech, when no-one will have had time to digest the substance and implications of a wide-ranging report. SURELY THEY KNOW THIS...it's great way of being 'transparent' while limiting criticism. Most of the tough questions would easily be answered by saying: "Read the report; it's in the report. Next question." So... why not suggest a live Q&A session to be televised on Trackside sometime (soon), ie in the next 2-4 weeks, with Peters and Messara together, when we have all had time to digest the report? 2 2 Quote
Newmarket Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Harness racing at Cambridge is on at the same time of this meeting? What were they thinking? Or maybe harness folk not that important? 1 1 Quote
Thomass Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 You're right newy... Theyre not...this is all about the superior THOROUGHBRED code and how they've been thoroughly screwed by the other two codes over the years... Messiah will right the wrongs and justly consign the other two codes where they belong ...in the gutter 1 Quote
Weasel Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomass said: You're right newy... Theyre not...this is all about the superior THOROUGHBRED code and how they've been thoroughly screwed by the other two codes over the years... Messiah will right the wrongs and justly consign the other two codes where they belong ...in the gutter spoken with all the wisdom, common sense, intellect, fair-mindedness and sheer kindness this Forum has come to expect of Thomass. At least he didn't disappoint. 2 Quote
Thomass Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) I only speak da truth wheeze.. Imagine if HK had all these other offerings available? Harness and Hounds are for loser bogan types with nothing better to do Its a waste of resources in fact...when they could be mucking out boxes for the Thoroughbreds... ..and committing totally to one code...we'll accept anyone...even those types... ...better than being locked up where they belong Edited August 22, 2018 by Thomass 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted August 22, 2018 Author Posted August 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, Thomass said: I only speak da truth wheeze.. Imagine if HK had all these other offerings available? Harness and Hounds are for loser bogan types with nothing better to do Its a waste of resources in fact...when they could be mucking out boxes for the Thoroughbreds... ..and committing totally to one code...we'll accept anyone...even those types... ...better than being locked up where they belong Bollocks. Why not be the World's best at all three? We used to be for at least one of the three codes. 2 Quote
curious Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 I think this thread suggests that the main question is whatever findings and recommendations are in the report, what is the action plan, in detail? Quote
Turny Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 Question After your report is implemented will you still have ongoing involvement in mentoring and ensuring good decisions continue to be made 2 Quote
Portfolio Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 On 22/08/2018 at 4:16 PM, Thomass said: I only speak da truth wheeze.. Imagine if HK had all these other offerings available? Harness and Hounds are for loser bogan types with nothing better to do Its a waste of resources in fact...when they could be mucking out boxes for the Thoroughbreds... ..and committing totally to one code...we'll accept anyone...even those types... ...better than being locked up where they belong Wash your mouth out. Little old nz needs all 3 codes to succeed. Quote
Turny Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Another question Why were Punters isolated with Free TV removed - and given the Client base is reducing dramatically and we cannot get people on course - then surely Free TV should be reintroduced tomorrow - and if not why not Edited August 25, 2018 by Turny 1 Quote
Kopia Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 Dear Minister.... Looking at the NZTR Racing Monthly for August 2018, I read on page 4 ( list of NZTR employees) that : Under the Racing Integrity Unit section there are: 1 Operations Manager; 1 General Manager ( Stewards ) Manager ( Integrity Assurance), 4 Senior or Chief Stipendiary Sterwards, 4 Investigators, 11 Stipendiary Stewards. And Yet...the 'buck' seems to bypass all the above? Why are decisions relative to illegal substances so hard to make, especially when they involve horses belonging to 'high profie' owners and/or trainers? And why when the so called 'offender' is a battling owner/trainer or low level jockey or trainer or owner, prosecutions are undertaken quickly and quite damaging penalties imposed..? It appears that there is also a sub-committee for integrity issues on the NZTR Board list...so what part do these people have in determining action by the Integrity Unit, which supposedly falls under their umbrella..? Woukd you not think, Minister, that given that integrity matters are so important in racing, that the Integrity Unit should be answerable to someone ? ...cast your eyes across the ditch, the Australian system does not blink if the alleged offenders are high profile trainers/jockeys/owners... Looking forward to hearing your reply, thankyou. 1 2 Quote
Kopia Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 And yes, this forum on Thursday evening is most definitely an appropriate place to raise these issues...if there is no confidence in the integrity' of racing then don't bother spending millions on tracks, they won't help raise the betting figures. 1 Quote
PeterJenkins Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 John Messara will not be an attendance. The report was written for Winston Peters. It's up to the Minister on interpretation and implementation. 1 2 Quote
Justamugpunter Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 If this event is so important then why is it not being broadcasted live? ? Which surely would have been easily done if it was present just down the road where the trots are being held! Will the event be recorded for broadcast at a later date? If not why not? 1 Quote
Justamugpunter Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, PeterJenkins said: John Messara will not be an attendance. The report was written for Winston Peters. It's up to the Minister on interpretation and implementation. Was the report written to be presented to the Minister AND the Industry as well? Quote
Justamugpunter Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 21/08/2018 at 11:42 AM, curious said: I don't see how we can pose questions about a report we haven't seen. Will that be released prior to the Q&A session so that informed questions can be presented to Winnie and Messara (if in fact the latter is also going to be there)? If not, the whole thing seems a bit pointless. Yet again a gutless approach being taken by those in charge! Par for the course for this lot! ps. any truth that a key feature will be the introduction of a new cooperate logo, which I believe is a version of this classic!!! ?????? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted August 29, 2018 Author Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, PeterJenkins said: John Messara will not be an attendance. The report was written for Winston Peters. It's up to the Minister on interpretation and implementation. Thanks Peter. I imagine Mr Messara is a very busy chap at this time of year. Unfortunately we will need someone like him to implement the changes NOT Winston. Quote
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