2nd Telfer Horse Wins

[Gammalite]

Couple of great wins for Amanda and Steve Telfer last night at Addington with AARDIES EXPRESS winning the feature Listed 3 yearold race by 5 lengths to make it 8 wins from 9 starts . And their 2nd Runner on the night,  also winning off the Hard Backmark of 30m in the Fast class discretionary stand start . An excellent win by AllamericanLover.

That will really help get over the tragedy for themselves as trainers, and some of their owners , and staff who have had some horses die in recent times. And showcase their stars and Training abilities. Can Alta Wiseguy beat Akuta tomorrow at Oamaru? might be unlikely knowing Marky Boy lol........ 

Also the Telfers barn also raced hard at Auckland on Thursday with three 2 year old fillies against that mighty AllStars 'machine'. Mark Purdon was 'too superior' however with an amazing turn of foot by MILLWOOD NIKE , Blazing home in 55 seconds from the back. !!!  you guys thought Bettor Twist was good , but this filly is going to be even Bettor than her,  and will sweep the floor with all the 2 and 3 year old Feature races over the next 10 months. ( bit like True Fantasy ) 

Edited September 16, 2022 by Gammalite

[Blackie]

I’d hate to own her , now that you’ve tipped it Gamma 😎(aka Self Assured).

[Gammalite]

15 minutes ago, Blackie said:

I’d hate to own her , now that you’ve tipped it Gamma 😎(aka Self Assured).

She is a real beauty . Millwood Nike. 

and also Aadies Express for the Telfer stable. He might even beat Allstars in something >> as going super well so far.

Don't worry Blackie , owners love me tipping their horses (must be 75% strike rate on BOAY lol) and Self Assured already Won the Cup once (with me on ) ...shame about last year though lol.... absolute 'Special' this year. without Amazing Dream or Copy That around the place. $3 sportsbet still . 🏆💰 ka-ching ka-ching

Gammalite and Blackie (Blacks A Fake) both failed to win the Great race >> The NZ Cup. but do have multiple Interdominion Grand-final wins between them . Something that the pretender SELF ASSURED has yet to achieve ? . the great LAZARUS won both. just a show-off ??? lol

 

[the galah]

No surprise to see them win.If you go through the records of the last 4 months you would see the Telfers  would have won about 60%,probably higher, of the races they have entered horses in. 

When they have runners that get beaten its normally in a race where they have provided the winner anyway.

Their strike rate recently is similar to what the all stars would have been at their peak.

Realistically, if they maintain that dominance and the all stars runners return to their peak,then you will only see a couple of other stables entering horses in races in which they enter.  

The times they run just kicks the heads in of the others normally. Last night you had aardies express win so easily in a 1.54 mile rate,while the rest,including a couple of handy horses were spread out like browns cows.

You hear them on trackside wondering why trainers and owners don't line up at addington where they have the better stakes.

Its so obvious people don't want to be the person that just makes up the numbers for the sake of a few $,and wouldn't put their pride and joys through the experience of watching other horses disappear into the distance .

Watching good horses win is nice,but lets be honest and acknowledge the gap between the high achievers and the rest is huge, insurmountable in fact.

People know that. Its a significant reason why people don't breed anymore,its a significant reason why they don't train or race anymore,and its a significant reason why,if they are still going, they sell their horses overseas.

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by the galah

[hunterthepunter]

45 minutes ago, the galah said:

 

People know that. Its a significant reason why people don't breed anymore

 

there was over 5000 mares bred from back in the early 2000s only about 2500 now . don't you think that is a good thing all the crappy mares gone?. why would you want to bred from crappy mare 

[the galah]

1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said:

there was over 5000 mares bred from back in the early 2000s only about 2500 now . don't you think that is a good thing all the crappy mares gone?. why would you want to bred from crappy mare 

Thats like saying its a good thing the industry now has only  half the number of trainers there were 25 years ago,because the best ones still train.

Edited September 17, 2022 by the galah

[Gammalite]

2 hours ago, the galah said:

ts so obvious people don't want to be the person that just makes up the numbers for the sake of a few $,and wouldn't put their pride and joys through the experience of watching other horses disappear into the distance .

Watching good horses win is nice,but lets be honest and acknowledge the gap between the high achievers and the rest is huge, insurmountable in fact.

Yes it does seem that way with the same stables turning out the young ones faster , from the higher priced sales at the yearling sales  ( Purdon, Telfer , Herlihy,  Green clients) and was right  there for all to see on Thursday evening.

That 2 yearold fillies race at Alexandra Park >>>

the Allstars and Telfers were 'smoken along' alright , and not hard for a youngster to lose the confidence chasing them in those fast times.  You're exactly right, and in being 5 -10 lengths behind that lot is pointless trying and wrecking your horse. The gap does seem to be there, and seems increasingly insurmountable. 

Dalgety has a knack in the South with young ones , so makes it hard going there too. (Krug and others) 

[hunterthepunter]

55 minutes ago, the galah said:

 the best ones still train.

that's because you get what you pay for at the sales . buy the best you will get the best . you not see the top stables with piss poor bred horses  like shadow plays lol more like bettors or art major 

[Blackie]

3 hours ago, hunterthepunter said:

there was over 5000 mares bred from back in the early 2000s only about 2500 now . don't you think that is a good thing all the crappy mares gone?. why would you want to bred from crappy mare 

Now stop it HTP, starting to sound like Brodie with all that hyperbole & exaggeration. 2500 mares would be a dream number now, more like 1500.

[the galah]

1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said:

that's because you get what you pay for at the sales . buy the best you will get the best . you not see the top stables with piss poor bred horses  like shadow plays lol more like bettors or art major 

I don't think the people who no longer breed their mares would be able to afford buying the best as you put it. So not a realistic answer.

[the galah]

2 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Yes it does seem that way with the same stables turning out the young ones faster , from the higher priced sales at the yearling sales  ( Purdon, Telfer , Herlihy,  Green clients) and was right  there for all to see on Thursday evening.

That 2 yearold fillies race at Alexandra Park >>>

the Allstars and Telfers were 'smoken along' alright , and not hard for a youngster to lose the confidence chasing them in those fast times.  You're exactly right, and in being 5 -10 lengths behind that lot is pointless trying and wrecking your horse. The gap does seem to be there, and seems increasingly insurmountable. 

Dalgety has a knack in the South with young ones , so makes it hard going there too. (Krug and others) 

I believe the answer for addington is to run races with a decent $30,000 stake for the ones you can't attract because of the reasons discussed.

For example  run a couple of races every few weeks that excludes horses trained by trainers with a udr rate of over say 2.6,or trainers who train no more than say 25 horses or both..Something along those lines.

To qualify they would simply have had to run in races anywhere in a certain time frame.Make them over 2600m.If the numbers are decent,run heats/final with the heats being penalty bearing.

The winter rewards type races worked. Why doesn't addington give the smaller trainers something to aim at. Don't they run gallops over at randwick they call highway races,where the country comes to town,which excludes the bigger trainers. They are very successful.

 

[Honestjohn]

On 9/17/2022 at 5:54 PM, the galah said:

I don't think the people who no longer breed their mares would be able to afford buying the best as you put it. So not a realistic answer.

 

 

I bred  my own because the sales were always too expensive for me.  Highest stud  fee I paid was falcon seelster  $7500 . You get what you pay for!!!  

 

Hj