BitofaLegend Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Why was manukau off today? Weather? Or did they stuff up the resurface like last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) GRNZ's newly hired National Racing Safety & Infrastructure Manager Bill Wilson has shown his true worth. https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/15285/stewards-report.aspx The warnings about his expertise have now come to light (even though GRNZ ignored them in the first place). https://australianracinggreyhound.com/tag/bill-wilson/ But hey, at least GRNZ can report to Govt they have a racing safety & infrastructure manager on the books now, even though he's still based in AU. Great job Glenda & Mr. Dore. He's just the man NZ racing needs. Just wait till this trickles down to Wanganui & it's TWO tracks! Edited December 18, 2022 by Yankiwi 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Yankiwi said: GRNZ's newly hired National Racing Safety & Infrastructure Manager Bill Wilson has shown his true worth. https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/15285/stewards-report.aspx The warnings about his expertise have now come to light (even though GRNZ ignored them in the first place). https://australianracinggreyhound.com/tag/bill-wilson/ But hey, at least GRNZ can report to Govt they have a racing safety & infrastructure manager on the books now, even though he's still based in AU. Great job Glenda & Mr. Dore. He's just the man NZ racing needs. Just wait till this trickles down to Wanganui & it's TWO tracks! Didnt realise he was the man in charge here. Remember talking to several big trainers in Aus about how he farked theit tracks up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 The "expert" gave his approval to return to racing on 12/12. https://www.grnz.co.nz/News/2956/Manukau-Stadium-Update Just 6 days later, after a wet (but not torrential) week, the ALL-WEATHER track was not suitable for racing, after spending a couple of months getting it back up to speed. 30mm over the 6 days isn't that much water for NZ conditions. What an absolute waste of money, paying someone who doesn't know what he's doing & losing two months of shutdown for no gain whatsoever. Who's to say the track isn't in worse condition now than it was before he started working on it? You just can't make this shit up. Credit to the Stewards for calling it what it was. Hopefully they've learned from their past mistakes & continue to make good decisions revolving around welfare. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinggreys Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 hours ago, BitofaLegend said: Didnt realise he was the man in charge here. Remember talking to several big trainers in Aus about how he farked theit tracks up. I had it first hand , the same thing. Trainers pissed off with more injuries than before he mucked around with the tracks, and when it went pear shaped the track men and clubs got the blame for being useless. GOTBA we’re call for his head. And the slightest inconsistency the race or meetings were called off. How on earth can you compare so quickly our sand to the Aussie sand, surely everything he has done has been on aussie sand and will need to learn about how ours acts? GRNSW GRV Deja vu Clearly no one reference checked this guy out with his Aussie managers ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Well well well, 30 mls of rain over the last week and the ALL WEATHER track is fooked. So many on the NZGRA payroll gravy train and nobody can get it right. Sad really. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 10 hours ago, racinggreys said: I had it first hand , the same thing. Trainers pissed off with more injuries than before he mucked around with the tracks, and when it went pear shaped the track men and clubs got the blame for being useless. GOTBA we’re call for his head. And the slightest inconsistency the race or meetings were called off. How on earth can you compare so quickly our sand to the Aussie sand, surely everything he has done has been on aussie sand and will need to learn about how ours acts? GRNSW GRV Deja vu Clearly no one reference checked this guy out with his Aussie managers ! Hes already destroyed Auckland. Auckland will be lucky to be racing thursday with the state of the canvas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Heard GRNZ is paying out the stakes for yesterday's fiasco, which at least helps the trainers out some. Also heard GRNZ have apologized for it happening. History says that the expert will now blame the track staff, if he is to repeat his blame someone else route he continually used in AU. What GRNZ should do is FIRE the expert, apologize for hiring him in the first place & payout to trainers/owners the same amount of money they paid to him for his worthless services/salary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinggreys Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 19/12/2022 at 11:22 AM, Yankiwi said: Heard GRNZ is paying out the stakes for yesterday's fiasco, which at least helps the trainers out some. Also heard GRNZ have apologized for it happening. History says that the expert will now blame the track staff, if he is to repeat his blame someone else route he continually used in AU. What GRNZ should do is FIRE the expert, apologize for hiring him in the first place & payout to trainers/owners the same amount of money they paid to him for his worthless services/salary. Yes it will help the trainers. But think about how much this has cost everyone. $0 worth of turnover, paid out all stakes to trainers, and the clubs probably got to pay wages for staff. So an expensive fookup !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 hours ago, racinggreys said: Yes it will help the trainers. But think about how much this has cost everyone. $0 worth of turnover, paid out all stakes to trainers, and the clubs probably got to pay wages for staff. So an expensive fookup !! It is not the trainers fault GRNZ genuises hired a numbskull. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) what a fucken disgrace! So many injuries today and dogs in clear air. Goodbye greyhound racing with these clowns in charge. That last broken hock, the dog was in clear air. Disgusting! Dont be shocked of todays meeting makes the news Edited December 29, 2022 by BitofaLegend 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 3x 42 day stand downs and one dog put down in one meeting on a "fixed track". Will no longer be punting or letting my dogs race there. 1). ZOE STAR (P Heterick) - had a 42 day incapacitation issued due to sustaining a hock injury when attempting to complete a satisfactory trial. Ordered to undergo x-rays within 24 hours to diagnose sprain or fracture with this to be reported back to Stewards. 2). BIG TIM MOSSY (P Heterick) - had a 42 day incapacitation issued due to sustaining a right carpal sprain when filling in for the satisfactory trial. THRILLING SNIPER (7) - referred to the Veterinarian after becoming awkward in its gallop rounding the first bend losing ground with the field where it was reported to have torn right long head tricep with a 42 day incapacitation issued. Must trial prior to resuming. MEG'S MUNCH (5) - referred to the Veterinarian after faltering free of interference rounding the bend before falling to the track where it was reported to have a compound fracture to its left hock, a fractured right tibia and fibula and a fractured right hock. Due to the catastrophic nature of the injuries the greyhound was humanely euthanised 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 They had a 42-day injury & a broken hock in a qualifying trial prior to the race meeting and the stewards let the tote races go ahead. Really? Then they had to delay race 7 to put extra water on the track. This alone proves that they knew there was problems with the track. So, are participants demanding GRNZ get rid of their so-called expert? Are they demanding a safe track to race on? Do trainers & owners have the balls to STOP nominating their dogs for race meets at Auckland? Surely they know that the track isn't safe by now. The sport is fvcked because GRNZ & the RIB are out of their depth & they always have been. This happens EVERY summer in AKL. It's not a surprise it's an expectation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 GRNZ are obviously aware of yesterdays mess. Theyve hidden the worst replay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, BitofaLegend said: GRNZ are obviously aware of yesterdays mess. Theyve hidden the worst replay. So now the Stewards no longer give a written running detail of a race & at someone's whim they're just going to flip the switch off for a replay. Then the punters can't watch it & make informed decision on their own. If that's going to be the case, might as well just drop 8 numbers in a hat & drawn 1st, 2nd & 3rd place out of it. Maybe they've begun to test a new plan like this for the future, because they know their current plan isn't going to end pretty. Edited December 30, 2022 by Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: So now the Stewards no longer give a written running detail of a race & at someone's whim they're just going to flip the switch off for a replay. Then the punters can't watch it & make informed decision on their own. If that's going to be the case, might as well just drop 8 numbers in a hat & drawn 1st, 2nd & 3rd place out of it. Maybe they've begun to test a new plan like this for the future, because they know their current plan isn't going to end pretty. Replay was put up 20 minutes after I made the post here and Channel X. Coincidence? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 The original video which was up has been re-edited to take the worst bit out in the home straight. Both dogs that received serious injuries yesterday during the tote races were well off the rail & free of any interference. One in catching turn & one in the home turn. So how many serious injuries does that make in now in the last 3 race meeting held there? 1 of them was prior to fixing (ruining) the track & 2 since. Didn't they even put in a huge water storage tank & drill a bore for water so they wouldn't be short of it not too long ago? Surely someone must understand the water needs to be applied to the track. 14 filled desks at headquarters. 1 welfare manager & 1 track expert in Australia. It isn't even funny anymore. It's time for owners & trainers to file criminal charges against the GRNZ (the lot of them) & recoup some of their losses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinggreys Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 21 hours ago, Yankiwi said: The original video which was up has been re-edited to take the worst bit out in the home straight. Both dogs that received serious injuries yesterday during the tote races were well off the rail & free of any interference. One in catching turn & one in the home turn. So how many serious injuries does that make in now in the last 3 race meeting held there? 1 of them was prior to fixing (ruining) the track & 2 since. Didn't they even put in a huge water storage tank & drill a bore for water so they wouldn't be short of it not too long ago? Surely someone must understand the water needs to be applied to the track. 14 filled desks at headquarters. 1 welfare manager & 1 track expert in Australia. It isn't even funny anymore. It's time for owners & trainers to file criminal charges against the GRNZ (the lot of them) & recoup some of their losses. I am almost sure that the strikes the trainers initiated in aussie were partially because of the injuries and meeting losses caused by the track expert but they were all united and had the backing of the trainers association. I cant see our trainers getting together and making the same stand? The antis will be having a ball, the employmnet of an expert to sort it all out, the huge change and cost to Manakau which have made NO difference, and please dont blame the trainers it makes no difference to the end result where dogs have died as the antis just make the noise about dead dogs and injury numbers!! WTF is Wanagnui going to be like if it ever races again. GRNZ and the Board members have a LOT to answer for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 30/12/2022 at 2:09 PM, Yankiwi said: So now the Stewards no longer give a written running detail of a race & at someone's whim they're just going to flip the switch off for a replay. Then the punters can't watch it & make informed decision on their own. If that's going to be the case, might as well just drop 8 numbers in a hat & drawn 1st, 2nd & 3rd place out of it. Maybe they've begun to test a new plan like this for the future, because they know their current plan isn't going to end pretty. Before I start I would like to say, I love my dogs, but I am being sickened by watching dogs seriously breaking down. As if thats not bad enough, we are subjected to Trackside sanitizing any incident like the viewers are morons. They Trackside have obviously taken a leaf out of the NZ Greyhound Ass and RIB handbook on how to deceive the viewing public, by burying anything that may portray them in bad light. The RIB until recently use to omit dogs that were euthanized in their stipe reports simply by just stating, dog referred to Vet end of story. They are all complicit in being dishonest and misleading to all concerned. This is the behavior that will ultimately bring them undone. My view is, just be ficken honest and do not treat your viewers like imbeciles. the galah and Yankiwi 2 Its called sanitizing or spin, you are dealing with experts here. Quote 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 3 hours ago, racinggreys said: GRNZ and the Board members have a LOT to answer for. GRNZ and its board NEVER answer to anything. Why should they? They're supreme. They're the boss. They are the ultimate multimillion-dollar business decision makers. They can just serve up what they want, when they want it. There's no accountability for their decisions or actions. The owners & trainers just follow them around generally trying to do the right things (not always) to comply with GRNZ's whims & keep food on their table & in their dog's dishes. If the owners or trainers dog gets so injured it never races again or get put down due to catastrophic injury because of poor tracks and/or poor maintenance of them, the cost is all on the owner/trainer. It cost GRNZ $0.00 to put down a dog on Thursday because it sustained two broken hocks & a compound fracture. The Vet was going to be paid the same whether it happened or not. I've pushed for this before, but the TRAINERS & OWNERS (at least the decent ones & they know who they are) need to come together & stop nominating their dogs at Auckland, at least until probably April or May. The track is only going to get worse before then. Nothing good will get done with the track if everyone keeps doing as they always have done. Leave the track to the Meth heads & vitamin B12 injectors to fill the fields (if they can) & let them ruin or kill their dogs there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 30/12/2022 at 8:34 AM, BitofaLegend said: GRNZ are obviously aware of yesterdays mess. Theyve hidden the worst replay. Who's "kurious" in the toxic suite? Rendle, Glenda, Hannan, or Rennell himself? Obviously, someone with very close ties with Rennell. My crystal ball guess is in bold & here's why. After recently stepping down, She's been freed from obligations & requirements in the GRNZ rulebook. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Rennell is a nil c*+@ Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Rennell and Blue Magic go together. While Rome burned around him, he chose to bury his head in the sand. Any credibility that he had evaporated at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinggreys Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 31 minutes ago, aquaman said: Rennell and Blue Magic go together. While Rome burned around him, he chose to bury his head in the sand. Any credibility that he had evaporated at that point. Use another board appointed puppet. Not one of them since sleepy Jim hasn’t been known to them. They have all been seat warmers lining their pockets with no interest in the dogs at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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