Doomed Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) That was impressive. Best NZ win in Aussie for a while. Very cool ride. No way was it going to win, or even place, 150m out. Edited March 4, 2023 by Doomed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Zac Purton ...great double...nailed Imperatriz in the last stride on Artorious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Would have won the last too...bad interference.What a rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: Zac Purton ...great double...nailed Imperatriz in the last stride on Artorious. 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: Would have won the last too...bad interference.What a rider. You don't have an opinion on Legarto's win? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Quite nice to give it back to Aussie tipsters, one not picked her in 5, another in 4. TV comment was she was undervalued on tote and NZ form might not be enough to get her there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 I thought she looked outstanding, and gee she was brave. She's come on, physically and mentally since Riccarton Guineas time. Our industry is crap but we can still produce nice horses. Imperatriz not disgraced either. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Freda said: I thought she looked outstanding, and gee she was brave. She's come on, physically and mentally since Riccarton Guineas time. Our industry is crap but we can still produce nice horses. Imperatriz not disgraced either. Yes Legarto only the 6th filly to win the Gunineas. Imperatriz would have been harder to beat on a better track. JMac may have gone a bit early but circumstances left her on the pace and in front too soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Top filly Legarto gives Waikato trainer Ken Kelso a first Australian group one win i.stuff.co.nz Exceptional filly Legarto overcame a nightmare run down the Flemington straight to deliver a first New Zealand triumph in Saturday’s A$1 million group one Australian Guineas (1600m). No New Zealand-trained horse had won Melbourne’s autumn three-year-old feature since its inception in 1986, but the outstanding daughter of Proisir rose to the occasion with an unforgettable performance. In her first start since losing her unbeaten record with a luckless fourth in the Karaka Million 3YO Classic (1600m) at Pukekohe on January 21, Legarto was eased back in the early stages of the race by Melbourne-based Kiwi jockey Michael Dee. She was travelling beautifully coming up to the home turn, but when the time came to make her move, Dee found a wall of horses everywhere he went. Legarto was stopped in her tracks more than once during a rough run down the straight that saw both Holymanz and Maximillius fall heavily towards the inside of the track, but she finally saw daylight in the final 100 metres and went into overdrive. With an astonishing late burst, she sailed past more than half a dozen rivals to score a win for the ages. Advertisement Advertise with Stuff “I thought I was behind a horse that would take me through and keep me out of trouble, but I ended up left in a pocket there for quite some time,” Dee said. “To Legarto’s credit, wow – she’s got a very, very good turn of foot. To get out when she did and finish over the top of them was an amazing effort. “She’s still on the way up, that’s for sure. She’s only lightly raced and should arguably be unbeaten. I think she can come back in the spring and could be anything.” Legarto’s Guineas triumph was the first group one win in Australia for Matamata trainers Ken and Bev Kelso, who have only half a dozen horses in work. “It’s huge,” Ken Kelso said. “I’ve said that we wouldn’t retire until we got a group one in Australia. We’ve only ever brought group one horses over here, and we’ve had three seconds, so it’s massive to win one. I just can’t believe it.” Legarto has now had seven starts for six wins, earning more than $1 million in stakes for an ownership syndicate that includes Ancroft Stud principal Phillip Brown and former Waikato Racing Club chief executive Tony Enting. She was a $90,000 purchase by Ancroft Stud from Highline Thoroughbreds’ draft at Karaka 2021. “She’s just an amazing filly,” Kelso said. “Probably 100 metres out, we thought we were going to run fifth, sixth, seventh or eighth if we were lucky. But she does things that other horses can’t do. She’s pretty special. “I think we’ll take her home now. She’s had a big season with two trips away – going to Christchurch for the 1000 Guineas (1600m) in the spring and then coming here. We have to chat to the owners, but as far as we’re concerned, we think she should probably have a bit of a break. Then we can think about coming back in the spring, and we can dream about things like Cox Plates and Caulfield Cups.” – NZ Racing Desk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 She joins an elite group. Year Winner Colour Sex Age Weight Time SP 2023 Legarto Bay Filly 3 years 55 kg 1:36.34 $6.50 2022 Hitotsu Brown Colt 3 years 57 kg 1:36.88 $8 2021 Lunar Fox Brown Colt 3 years 57 kg 1:35.86 $301 2020 Alligator Blood Bay Gelding 3 years 57.5 kg 1:34.92 $2.70 2019 Mystic Journey Brown/Black Filly 3 years 54.5 kg 1:35.79 $4 2018 Grunt Bay/Brown Colt 3 years 56.5 kg 1:34.99 $5.50 2017 Hey Doc Bay Gelding 3 years 56.5 kg 1:34.01 $3.40 2016 Palentino Chestnut Colt 3 years 56.5 kg 1:35.28 $10.00 2015 Wandjina Bay Colt 3 years 56.5 kg 1:35.14 $8.00 2014 Shamus Award Bay Colt 3 years 56.5 kg 1:36.41 $4.00 2013 Ferlax Bay/Brown Colt 3 years 56.5 kg 1:35.90 $17.00 2012 Mosheen Bay Filly 3 years 54.5 kg 1:37.60 $5.00 2011 Shamrocker Bay Gelding 3 years 53.5 kg 1:35.33 $31.00 2010 Rock Classic Bay Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 1:36.80 $17.00 2009 Heart Of Dreams Bay Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 1:35.88 $3.80 2008 Light Fantastic Grey/Brown Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 1:36.41 $2.60 2007 Miss Finland Bay Filly 3 years 53 kg 1:36.09 6-4 2006 Apache Cat Chestnut Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.00 7-1 2005 Al Maher Bay Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.45 7-1 2004 Reset Bay Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.57 9-4 2003 Delago Brom Bay Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:35.93 5-2 2002 Dash For Cash Grey Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:35.39 13-4 2001 Mr. Murphy Bay Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.43 9-4 2000 Pins Bay Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 2:02.31 2-1 1999 Dignity Dancer Bay Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 1:59.00 8-13 1998 Gold Guru Chestnut Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 2:00.54 9-2 1997 Mouawad Brown Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:36.50 10-9 1996 Flying Spur Brown Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.90 9-2 1995 Baryshnikov Grey Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.60 7-1 1994 Mahogany Brown Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.90 8-11 1993 Kenny’s Best Pal Chestnut Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:35.00 10-1 1992 Jolly Old Mac Brown Gelding 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.0 13-2 1991 Triscay Chestnut Filly 3 years 54 kg 1:35.80 6-4 1990 Zabeel Brown Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:37.30 5-2 1989 King’s High Brown Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:35.90 11-2 1988 Flotilla Brown Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:35.20 9-10 1987 Military Plume Brown Colt 3 years 55.5 kg 1:34.70 3-1 1986 True Version Brown Colt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 My ears pricked up when I saw Wandjina...didn't realise he had performed at such an elite level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, Freda said: My ears pricked up when I saw Wandjina...didn't realise he had performed at such an elite level. I knew some good horses have won the Guineas but when you see them all on one page it just highlights what the Filly achieved yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chief Stipe Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 First Grp1 winner in Australia sired by Proisir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes Legarto only the 6th filly to win the Gunineas. Imperatriz would have been harder to beat on a better track. JMac may have gone a bit early but circumstances left her on the pace and in front too soon. Back to your JMac bashing!🤡It was a perfect ride.The winner was competitive against the best in Pomgolia and beat Anamoe as a 2 y.o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: JMac may have gone a bit early but circumstances left her on the pace and in front too soon. I wouldn't have thought saying a jockey may have gone a bit early = jockey bashing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 14 hours ago, holy ravioli said: Back to your JMac bashing!🤡It was a perfect ride.The winner was competitive against the best in Pomgolia and beat Anamoe as a 2 y.o. Since when have I "bashed" JMac? I've always said he is one of the best jockeys ever. However there is a chink in his armour. There are better jockeys that you would put on your horse if it was a leader or right on the pace type. With Impertriz I felt he could have waited a length or two more before going for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 13 hours ago, Special Agent said: I wouldn't have thought saying a jockey may have gone a bit early = jockey bashing. Nor would I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Since when have I "bashed" JMac? I've always said he is one of the best jockeys ever. However there is a chink in his armour. There are better jockeys that you would put on your horse if it was a leader or right on the pace type. With Impertriz I felt he could have waited a length or two more before going for her. Previously you stated he couldn't get either Nature Strip or Verry Ellegant to...settle. Right on cue NS then won the Everest and VE ...the MC!!🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 hours ago, holy ravioli said: Previously you stated he couldn't get either Nature Strip or Verry Ellegant to...settle. Right on cue NS then won the Everest and VE ...the MC!!🙄 We've debated this at length and of course you don't mention the trainers efforts with those two horses. Anyway back to the marvellous effort by Legarto which you have yet to really comment on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Both RNZ and Newstalk ZB have a Monday summary of outstanding weekend sport performances. On RNZ Legarto never got amention whilst on Newstalk the correspondent Andrew Saville or someone got cutoff by Mike Hosking after being keen outlining the effort. Didn't get chance to mention Mick Dee the NZ jockey afterall jockeys are professional sports people. Clearly Mike Hosking is anti racing. Racing businesses should steer clear advertising on that station. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: We've debated this at length and of course you don't mention the trainers efforts with those two horses. Anyway back to the marvellous effort by Legarto which you have yet to really comment on. It was an impressive effort by Legarto...no doubt.Her aussie bred sire had some great battles with...Dundeel. Aussie sires have put the kiwi bred ones in the shade.A trend that is accelerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: It was an impressive effort by Legarto...no doubt.Her aussie bred sire had some great battles with...Dundeel. Aussie sires have put the kiwi bred ones in the shade.A trend that is accelerating. You're kidding? Proisir has had only 1 Grp1 winner in Australia. Legarto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Don't overlook the Sunbride connection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Freda said: Don't overlook the Sunbride connection. Anamoe's dam line is NZ bred too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 20 hours ago, The Centaur said: Both RNZ and Newstalk ZB have a Monday summary of outstanding weekend sport performances. On RNZ Legarto never got amention whilst on Newstalk the correspondent Andrew Saville or someone got cutoff by Mike Hosking after being keen outlining the effort. Didn't get chance to mention Mick Dee the NZ jockey afterall jockeys are professional sports people. Clearly Mike Hosking is anti racing. Racing businesses should steer clear advertising on that station. Hosking needs to get his polical party together, no one knows more about how to run a country than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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