where c Johnson?

[curious]

On 1/07/2024 at 6:39 AM, curious said:

Update from the CWJ fb page:

Nicci Johnson

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I can update that got another 3 months acc. Is having odd ride weekly to gauge how leg is. Fitness improving and movement much better. Hopefully September/October we may see him on track.

@Newmarket what are you confused about?

[Newmarket]

2 hours ago, curious said:

@Newmarket what are you confused about?

Confused that he is even thinking of returning to race riding. He is 59yo but looks about 70yo, should just give up and be remembered as a great jockey

[curious]

11 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Confused that he is even thinking of returning to race riding. He is 59yo but looks about 70yo, should just give up and be remembered as a great jockey

He's 60 actually. Did you miss his birthday?

[Newmarket]

On 2/07/2024 at 8:13 PM, curious said:

He's 60 actually. Did you miss his birthday?

Look, CWJ has been great for NZ racing, been around a long time and his record speaks for itself.

But to come back at his age after injury I think is a poor decision. Look at Tony Allan, pity he came back

[Murray Fish]

3 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Look, CWJ has been great for NZ racing, been around a long time and his record speaks for itself.

But to come back at his age after injury I think is a poor decision. Look at Tony Allan, pity he came back

wow,  gee, first off!  are you a betting man?  if so,

I will wager you that both of those riders that you have mentioned!  - who,  I have know, going back 40 years - Would wipe the floor with ya re 'current fitness'.  How close to your 'fighting weigh' are You? 
ps. I be happy to bet ya re my current fitne$s!  (lol, hope CS was right about you be propping up the bar a lot!) 

They 100% should be able to chose weather to apply for their Licence each season.  They know if they can no longer ride safely! TK keeps his for the horse that he trains, he has no need to chase. CWJ I'm sure will keep focused on recovering! One thing that is very much in his camp, is he doesn't have to go through any silly eating reality to actually just make weight! Race fitness can only be got when and if that happens! Either Or, He be in a good place  to be dealing with it!

[Chief Stipe]

On 2/07/2024 at 8:01 PM, Newmarket said:

He is 59yo but looks about 70yo, should just give up and be remembered as a great jockey

He's looked 70 since he was 40.

[curious]

And he's made a few comebacks in his time, all successful in the end. So, I'm sure he's quite capable of making good decisions about if, when and how on this one.

[Newmarket]

5 hours ago, Murray Fish said:

wow,  gee, first off!  are you a betting man?  if so,

I will wager you that both of those riders that you have mentioned!  - who,  I have know, going back 40 years - Would wipe the floor with ya re 'current fitness'.  How close to your 'fighting weigh' are You? 
ps. I be happy to bet ya re my current fitne$s!  (lol, hope CS was right about you be propping up the bar a lot!) 

They 100% should be able to chose weather to apply for their Licence each season.  They know if they can no longer ride safely! TK keeps his for the horse that he trains, he has no need to chase. CWJ I'm sure will keep focused on recovering! One thing that is very much in his camp, is he doesn't have to go through any silly eating reality to actually just make weight! Race fitness can only be got when and if that happens! Either Or, He be in a good place  to be dealing with it!

Crazy response, why compare riders fitness with mine? I’m not riding so not a worthwhile conversation is it. 
If you get excited watching TK ride, well good on ya. Why don’t you get Leo back out riding, 

[Newmarket]

2 hours ago, curious said:

And he's made a few comebacks in his time, all successful in the end. So, I'm sure he's quite capable of making good decisions about if, when and how on this one.

Yeah, well let’s see. No doubt if he did come back he would get the rides, mainly due to the poor selection of good riders in sth island. 

[curious]

 

 

[curious]

Didn't need the whip either.. lol!

[Wingman]

YES. My biggest single win bet return was on a horse he rode called Iamishwara. Ten years ago at New Plymouth. $19 tote $18 fixed odds. Settled 3rd last improved across top, loomed to lead 100m, 2 horse struggle from there, won by a 'long' nose and not once at any time in the race did he whip the horse..LEGEND

[Chief Stipe]

5 minutes ago, Wingman said:

YES. My biggest single win bet return was on a horse he rode called Iamishwara. Ten years ago at New Plymouth. $19 tote $18 fixed odds. Settled 3rd last improved across top, loomed to lead 100m, 2 horse struggle from there, won by a 'long' nose and not once at any time in the race did he whip the horse..LEGEND

He only whips @curious's horses.

[curious]

18 minutes ago, Wingman said:

YES. My biggest single win bet return was on a horse he rode called Iamishwara. Ten years ago at New Plymouth. $19 tote $18 fixed odds. Settled 3rd last improved across top, loomed to lead 100m, 2 horse struggle from there, won by a 'long' nose and not once at any time in the race did he whip the horse..LEGEND

Believe me, he was using the whip all the way down the straight. Hands never left the reins though.

https://loveracing.nz/Common/SystemTemplates/Modal/Video.aspx?v=http%3a%2f%2fwww.racingreplays.co.nz%2fmedia%2f201407%2f20140719TARA07_BB.mp4&i=%2fCommon%2fImage.ashx%3fw%3d565%26h%3d314%26a%3d1%26o%3d1%26z%3d1%26bg%3deeeeee%26p%3dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww.racingreplays.co.nz%2fmedia%2f201407%2f20140719TARA07_BB.jpg&r=Race 7 - WAIKATO STUD OPUNAKE CUP&rs=1

[Chief Stipe]

12 minutes ago, curious said:

Believe me, he was using the whip all the way down the straight. Hands never left the reins though.

Don't tell @Thomass that's who Sam Sprat learned the technique off.

[Wingman]

I will agree there is a 'tapping' going on but if that is 'using' the whip then that is right up there with the cop fining you for going 1km over the speed limit. Further more if his hands never leave the rein there is no way he is whipping in any conventional sense of the word. On a positive note, thank you Curious for putting the video clip which enables those that are interested to form an opinion 

[curious]

11 minutes ago, Wingman said:

I will agree there is a 'tapping' going on but if that is 'using' the whip then that is right up there with the cop fining you for going 1km over the speed limit. Further more if his hands never leave the rein there is no way he is whipping in any conventional sense of the word. On a positive note, thank you Curious for putting the video clip which enables those that are interested to form an opinion 

I agree and that is not counted as a strike with the whip under current or likely coming rules.

A rider may at their discretion use the whip with a slapping motion down the shoulder, with
the whip hand remaining on the reins, at any time.

[Chief Stipe]

18 hours ago, curious said:

I agree and that is not counted as a strike with the whip under current or likely coming rules.

A rider may at their discretion use the whip with a slapping motion down the shoulder, with
the whip hand remaining on the reins, at any time.

What about the Jockeys that put the whip forward towards the face but don't touch the horse?  It is sort of like when you lead a horse and when they don't go where you want them to go you put your hand up and they go straight.  

I'm not sure I like the whip forward.

Now one thing with regard to the whip that I'd like to see really enforced is where a Jockey goes to whip their horse but clips the face of the horse improving beside them.  

[curious]

16 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

What about the Jockeys that put the whip forward towards the face but don't touch the horse?  It is sort of like when you lead a horse and when they don't go where you want them to go you put your hand up and they go straight.  

I'm not sure I like the whip forward.

That is already enforceable but is not. The rule probably needs strengthening. I've suggested it but deaf ears.

a Rider must not use his or her whip:

• forward of the Rider’s horse’s shoulder or in the vicinity of its head;

[Thomass]

19 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Don't tell @Thomass that's who Sam Sprat learned the technique off.

There's zero comparison to hands on reins neck whippin' to what Spretty does

Consecutive strikes on the flank which reminds the horse how it's going to be much more painful when it becomes harder close to the line

Shocking cheating rubber stamped by RIB

[Chief Stipe]

9 minutes ago, Thomass said:

There's zero comparison to hands on reins neck whippin' to what Spretty does

Consecutive strikes on the flank which reminds the horse how it's going to be much more painful when it becomes harder close to the line

Shocking cheating rubber stamped by RIB

Spratt doesn't do what you describe.  Prove it.

[Thomass]

25 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Spratt doesn't do what you describe.  Prove it.

Soz, dont know whether I'm talking to Arfur or Marfa half the time

Here's Spratt whippin' the flank all the way down the Tauranga straight in Woodsy's Green colours

The winner if you're colour blind

 

[Trojan]

43 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Soz, dont know whether I'm talking to Arfur or Marfa half the time

Here's Spratt whippin' the flank all the way down the Tauranga straight in Woodsy's Green colours

The winner if you're colour blind

 

You're blind.

[Thomass]

1 hour ago, Trojan said:

You're blind.

What's she doing then Magoo...hitting scotch mist?

[Trojan]

3 minutes ago, Thomass said:

What's she doing then Magoo...hitting scotch mist?

None so blind than those who can't see.  Prove she hit the flank?