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Sometimes you have to have faith. That officials at ANY Sport can make decisions based on what they see. I like a lot of your ideas , but you are a fraction to pedantic. (Nothing wrong with being Pedantic as you get more results in your favour that way , whatever you might be tackling , like Fishing for example lol 😆🤣) Horses and drivers do funny things in races. Stewards have to make sense of it , BUT They CANNOT tell you how to drive your horse. Drivers still make split second decisions , horses make bad errors , and vice versa ) things happen. Case 1/ I argued the driverless horse case at Hawera with you , over which we had differing views. The stewards probably even had a view different to BOTH of us . It's just the way it is . You wanted drivers suspended in that particular case. I didn't , as they were juniors and a driverless horse does Weird and wonderful things. Leeway is needed . and the race should of been called off to like a subscriber here pointed out . NoworNever I think it was. CASE 2/ Not of interest to anyone except you Mr Galah , as you would remember this handy NZ horse named HOT and TREACHEROUS. he raced last Saturday night Albion at Long odds, against the FFA top class horses. And the driver went a bit 'Ballistic ' and tried to leave the hot favourite SPEAK THE TRUTH out 3 wide , and then tried to cross the leader not long after. A terrible effort as no way would that horse be giving him the lead. Anyway , The Classy 'Speak The Truth' ( a miracle Mile placegetter and started in the Slot races at Cambridge once he's that good) powered to an easy Victory . The Mug driver of Hot and Treacherous was quizzed as to his driving tactics by stewards. I thought his drive was quite ordinary at the time . Livingstone doesn't drive much at all though. and he was having a Go. to Win the race. And what could stipes do ?? suspend him for having a go ?? He tried to beat them , what you're spose to do . Didn't go about it as you might like as was shown to be futile against quality opponents. Anyway they didn't suspend him , and I can only imagine when quizzed he just said I was trying to lead and win . About 1 hour ago at our Tuesday Albion meet , we now run FFA stands for the old boys who can't keep up Saturday nights. to give them a race they can still win. Old TURN IT UP won one of these last month bless him. what a trooper he is. today, HOT and Treacherous in the stand FFA off 30m handicap ran a great 2nd , and paid $6 the place (starting 30-1) and Livingstone drove him beautifully and all but beat the hot favourite that he did head off for a few strides. well done to them. Each race is different , and looked at differently. Is quite funny for getting quizzed for having a go. Or not having a Go . But in the end the Stipes Can't tell them how to drive........ and the public has to accept that too. Case 3/ Lack of vigour things just happen in your Big silly fields in NZ . If you're last at the 1/4 in those Big 14 horse fields , why be vigorous ? you're NO HOPE of getting any of the money. might as well wait till next time and still have a horse lol... thankfully in Oz the 6-10 horse fields mean everyone can have a Go Everytime and lack of vigour not an issue at all. -
well you have to have 2 yearold races at some stage Brodster. 8 youngsters went around in 2 heats at Pukekohe today. They went about 2 minutes to 2.01 so pretty good on that track. They Were a bit strung out though . But hopefully the programmer will give them a race soon. There are 2 scratchings in the Addington race , so you're being unfair on the Programmer , who is not going to pick that would happen. was spose to be 5 starters. Why accept for a race then scratch? trainers should be fined for that sort of rubbish lol 😉😂 Hey the Two (2) x maiden races are being run for 15k in races 7 and 8 straight after the 2 yearolds on Thursday. So is that the prize you thinking the 2 year-olds should run for instead of 17k that is programmed ? you're probably right. I'd only run ALL maidens for $9k races if I was doing it lol 🤣😎 save a few bucks that way. wouldn't be too popular with a trainers and owners though lol. 😆 they'd get used to it quick enough though and actually try and win a race to get better prizemoney when better rating. that's the way to do it.
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The thing is the programmer whoever it is needs to wake up and start making the right calls! There was never ever going to be many 2 year olds ready to race on Thursday night and yet they offer a stake of $17K???? There really needs to be a serious meeting called to discuss things and where they are driving the harness industry to? It seems incomprehensible that they have not realised what they are doing with the money they are receiving and spending it like it is going to be around indefinitely! Brad Steele needs to be talking to Entain about their plans at the end of the 5 years and what is required from HRNZ and the TAB to be receiving what level of stake money?? I challenge anyone from those 2 organisations to come on BOAY and explain themselves!
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