Chief Stipe

Who cares on course? Old school metric of success. Enjoy the racing. Obviously you're not on course.

But they didn't INVENT the slot race.

Therefore you don't understand the nuances of the rules. Let alone the precedents. You talk in terms of grey when you say "I wouldn’t necessarily say"...what would you say?

Who? The trainers I've talked to have zero influence. Hell @Pitman and @Reefton bailed when I asked them what were they doing. One of them was the chair of a regional programming committee. So WHO is determing the programme? It's not a conspiracy it's a cockup.

That should be the focus of every stakeholder. Rather than being distracted by the woke issues the focus should be on the industry being financially viable and strong. That is the biggest reason Greyhounds succumbed - they didn't have enough revenue to fix ANY issues nor fight the fight against an obsessed minority who want to end ALL RACING. Whether whips are used or strikes are counted correctly is not at the forefront in the minds of stakeholders that have significant skin in the game. The issues are getting a start for their horse, having a safe track to train and race on and generally protecting their investment. If the industry can maintain financial strength at an individual and national level then other issues can be fought for or against.

The difference is it was apparent to the Stewards that Bosson didn't act deliberately to interfere with the other horses. For example he didn't bowl over a horse outside him when looking to get a winning run. He corrected his mount once from running in and was CARELESS in not doing so again AFTER the winning post. There was no advantage to him in deliberately running in. There are numerous examples of where Jockeys after the winnning post don't take reasonable care.

Eh? 10 days vs 4 and a half months? I look forward to your seeing analysis.

That's your interpretation of a "like" however it doesn't hide the fact that your statistics and the inferences you draw from them are BS. If GRNZ give them any credence then that highlights another problem. You compared 4 and half months to 10 days! That is absolute bullshit.

The rating in my opinion is often a finger in the air measurement. In the absence of any other measure the moisture reading is worthless. Supplying the penetrometer readings alongside the moisture readings would provide some measureable correlation. As you mentioned in a post a wee while ago there is no point in using them in any form analysis. The Trentham meeting a couple of meetings ago was a classic. Allegedly a Soft 5 but more like a Good 2!

High injury rates in relation to what? That is a completely bogus analysis. Why don't you compare the worst day to the whole season to date? Really ramp up your mis- and disinformation. If you continue to post anymore of this shyte you will be put on moderation. Your analysis is crap and isn't helping.

There were two more versions after that. However I think grammar checking is a minor issue.

Race 2 ENTAIN/NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES MAIDEN (1200m) VANDERDONK (R Mudhoo) - Slow to begin. Blundered passing the 300 metres dislodging rider R Mudhoo who was examined by the St John Ambulance personnel and cleared of any injury. Mr Mudhoo reported the gelding was having its first start in visor blinkers and had overreacted when in restricted room. Race 3 IDEAL RACING GYPSY DAY (1200m) STIMULANT (T Comignaghi) - Lost its footing passing the 700 metres. Following the race a number of riders expressed concern with a section of the track near the 700 metres, with one rider advising their mount had slipped which was verified by Steward’s films. A track inspection team of Stewards, riders and a club official inspected the area concerned. Riders conducted a meeting after which their representative advised Stewards it was a unanimous decision not to continue racing due to the unsafe nature of today’s track conditions. Accordingly, Stewards abandoned the remainder of the meeting. Report attached. Report 2024-12-22 Gore V3.pdf

Do you really consider that is the black type that anyone with a serious horse would choose to go after when there Grp race options elsewhere?

I don't see what you see. I think your obscure browser has a cache problem. Refresh.

And yesterday was Sunday.

The only positive of The Everest is every horse is eligible to race it even though the best are both selected due to Slot Holder bias. The Kiwi B eligibility rules and timing and the lack of black type eliminates the best horses from racing. Many of those have a big following.

Why?

In my opinion they should. In war terms Greyhounds are a bridgehead.

Did it fall?

Yes and as for the BS that there is a grudge and they don't talk to each other. Neither accusations have much foundation. Why would they have a need to talk to each other? Jamie Richards is trying to establish his career in Hong Kong in his own right. Not easy when you also have to create the support network and supply chain beneath you. David Ellis is overseeing 3 stables, a stud and 4,500 acres of land, cattle and sheep. Over 200 horses in work and $25m each year in buying yearlings. 130+ employees. I'm surprised he has time to talk to anyone. I did notice at last years sale that when David was told Jamie was the other bidder in an expensive yearling he stopped bidding.

What is more sad is that miserable old bustards have nothing better to do than post vitriolic jabs at those who are successful in the game. Ultimately it is that sort of negativity that will kill the game in NZ.

Yeah @Huey probably got out bid in the festival sale 2 decades ago and has never got over it.

What has been sewed? We await your erudite analysis.

Only 5 starters today in the time honoured Wakefield Challenge Stakes 2024. Some very good two year olds have won this race in the past. One of them probably our best in Our Maizcay. 1978 Tang 1980 Glamour Bay 1981 Bound To Honour 1982 Romantic Bay 1993 Silver Chalice 1995 Our Maizcay 1998 Happyanunoit 2001 Vinaka 2002 Danroad 2003 Maroofity 2004 Kapsdan 2005 Wahid 2010 Jimmy Choux

The reality is the NZ industry would be very poor without the Te Akau investment. Putting $25 million a year at risk each year is a very big play in NZ. Contrary to what some poppy slayers think there are no gaurantees that when Ellis purhcases a horse at the sale that they will all be sold. It has caught Bart Cummings and now Anthony Cummings out as well as a number of other high profile trainers and syndicators. What really appalls me though is the vitriol that is spewing out across social media channels.