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You miss the point entirely. There is no evidence that either Fe or Co at a certain level improves performance. I've been critical of the catchall rule across all three codes. It tends to capture more good people than bad. To take your point further - are you going to ban training? Afterall improving the efficiency of the cardio-vascular system and its oxygen carrying capacity is the goal of high performance training. Of course you can give all the Ironvita you want in training. I'm not actually sure you really do care about animal welfare.

The common issue is a lack of strong leadership and a focus on the core issues.

You miss the point or you are deliberately obfuscating. Yes some of the chosen few have been reliant on interest free loans, grants, pokie money and other "free" funding. Many haven't had that charity and have done it themselves. There seems to be a strong correlation between those that got the most external funding and the poor state of their tracks. Not to mention their lack of profitability.

Weren't you arguing for cambered tracks a while back? Heading to the outside fence is a consequence.

Are you intellectually challenged? Where is the research that Cobalt is performance enhancing for racing horses or dogs? Using your own logic Fe has a similar effect as Co on erythropoiesis. Let's face it your logic and anti-greyhound stance is based on little of substance.

Yeah why join a committee when the RIU and NZTR screw you over. Just ask @Reefton , New Plymouth, Ruakaka, Westland committees.

I had that exact same thought last night. The whole AWT strategy is arse about face. The strategy was to provide a racing surface that could be used during the winter to avoid abandonments. Yet the horses that pitch up in the winter want soft to heavy tracks. I'd be thinking twice about breeding a mudder!

I'd like to thank you for watching me and my little show here tonight. If you've enjoyed it then it's all been worthwhile.

Neither would Iron. You miss the point because the chemistry is beyond you. Ditto responding to the ignorant. What you are proving from your position of wanting to cancel Greyhound racing is that the Greyhound Administrators are shooting themselves in the paw. The question is: Is Cobalt at x level a PED? Cite the science that says it is. Not opinion or supposition - the research.

Apparently NO SAY. Came from NZTR. Which is a real piss off as the local enthusiasts work really well at getting people to the races. One of the dates lost was the annual pub team competition. In the middle of winter FFS. 19 teams this year. Go figure!!!

All good. Bus load organised from the Far North. Are any of these Roadshows at the same time as local race meetings? That would be a novel idea wouldn't it?

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Time for the peasants to revolt. Just talked to some Ruakaka Club people and they are pissed about losing two dates south.

In your obsession you miss the point. Iron (Fe) does the same thing as Cobalt. Neither are a drug. They are a basic element essential to the production of blood. Suggest you go do your homework.

Ironvita is NOT a drug. It is a dietary supplement. Legal at that.

How can a track be "too deep"? How do you quantify that?

Exactly as I thought. The meeting in February had more rain and they went ahead. Anna Duncan should talk to @Reefton

With all due respect @freda in my opinion this is a serious topic and the sooner we all started thrashing it out and/or taking action the sooner we may see some change. In my opinion all I'm seeing is more of the same. Hopefully if I can convince @TAB For Ever to think differently then maybe that is a small step in the right direction.

Really - Everybody? There is that marketing spin again. Well reducing them hasn't made things better has it. Perhaps we should have made more and engaged more communities, trainers and support staff. Was never going to be perfect because the descision was made on the wrong assumptions and incorrect evidence. Why was Kumara chosen overy Westland? The latter had an engaged community, cash in the bank and ran successful racedays. No I asked why is it so difficult. I also asked surely there is better technology available that doesn't involve the need for a Broadcast Van. How do you televise from some of those remote places in Australia where the distances between tracks are enormous. I suspect the issues in NZ are the product of old school thinking, a mates network and a poorly managed outsource contract over decades. You are so wrong regarding my interest in horses and racing. However that isn't the point. What motivates me is that I keep seeing gross mismangement of this industry and fat cats in suits getting fatter. The decline isn't anything to do with your theories on DNA and too many racecourse it is all to do with decades of mismanagement. Nope - it is well worth doing and I suggest you give it a go because what you will quickly see (assuming you take your murphy blinds off) is that we are repeating the same mistakes we have been making for 60 years. Nothing has changed. I think it was Churchill that said "the only thing we learn from history is we don't learn from history". Do you think it might be the time to do the opposite of what we are doing?

I've changed my mind about you being a cost accountant. Are you in marketing? There was a crash on the Southern Motorway adding 3 extra hours to the float trip from Matamata. The races at Ellerslie weren't abandoned they were put back. I thought you were there? There were two detours - one for cars and small trucks and the other detour through Maungaturoto. Only added about 40mins to the drive. No it is pure bullshit. The Maungaturoto detour starts at the bottom of the Brynderwins. It wouldn't have been that much longer and the races would have gone ahead ON TIME! Saw them all. Lord Module would never have been allowed to race today due to animal welfare reasons. Grey Way and Copperbelt raced on farmer managed tracks on racedays that would have been abandoned today.

Interests you little but you are happy to use it as an excuse for mismanagement. How many race meetings were abandoned January-June 2023? I can play with statistics too. From the records - June 2024: Nearly 42% of New Zealand’s regularly reporting stations observed below normal (50-79% of normal) or well below normal (<50% of normal) June rainfall. Why? They don't have a racecourse anymore (well they do but it isn't one of the select few). They were shifted to Hastings but woops... Yep and how many race meetings were abandoned at Hokitika over the years? By the way about 20km inland from Hokitika the NZ records for rainfall are held which make the East Coast look tame. 850mm in 24 hours. 566mm in 12 hours. 3000mm in a month. That water all flowed down the Hokitika river.

As was pointed out to you but which your selective bias chooses to ignore is that Ironvita can be used on dogs and is sometimes recommended to be used on dogs. You could choose something more expensive that had the same contents but labeled to give to dogs such as https://www.hvhoofandequinehealthcareproducts.com/product-page/virbac-ironcyclen The grounds for appeal would be that the rule is non-specific - it is a catchall that in many respects is detrimental to the health and welfare of dogs. The second grounds would be that there is no evidence that Cobalt at the levels administered are performance enhancing. Answer this question: Why don't they test for Iron levels under the same catchall rule? Afterall following your logic Iron is an erythropoiesis enhancing agent. That's why many women take Iron supplements once a month. BTW there is 300x the amount of Iron in Ironvita than there is Cobalt.

Where is the research? CITE THE RESEARCH. Emphasis mine. I can post two research studies that clearly show Cobalt had no effect on equine performance. I cannot find any research that supports that it does.

Not you specifically but your views. @Yankiwi is doing the same with Greyhounds. You are both looking for stuff that isn't there and when solid proof/research is put up you double down. I admit I double double down as well. Why? Because I know that by far the majority of the people providing the product (trained horses and dogs) are NOT cheating. There is zero evidence found so far that Grimson is cheating for example. But when people go "wink wink nudge nudge - there's something going on there" and don't provide any evidence I vehemently go into fight for those that have been impugned. I have the wives of two very high profile trainers and some administrators ring me directly in tears about some of the stuff that is written online. If you have evidence of something then put it up. But don't hide behind an online avatar and don't expect me to even things up. Actually two weeks ago I meet a group of young up and coming workers at the coalface and they were grateful that someone does try and even things up.