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What's your point @the galah? I've never said that aminorex is not a metabolite of Levamisole. I have said that the volume produced is very small and unlikley to have a pharmacological effect. However it is easily detected and the piece you cut and pasted essentially says that!!!! Where did I say it wasn't? I'll repeat so perhaps you can comprehend - it is easily detectable, is metabolised in small amounts from Levamisole. If it isn't detected it CAN'T have a pharmacological effect. Where did I contradict them? You are the one joining all these dots and joining the uneducated rabble that are looking for any reason for a stables high performance. BUT you lack of understanding or chosen ignorance is deliberate on some science because it doesn't support your conspiracy!!!! Yep run for cover rather than addressing the science.

@the galah you are wasting your time because you are cherry picking and then linking dots to support your alleged consipiracy. Levamisole and its metabolites are easily detectable - if there are no positives i.e. the substances are not detected in pre-race and post race testing then how does zero presence affect horse performance? Yes there have been positives but THEY WERE DETECTED!!!! You argue that the Trainers in those cases got the withholding periods wrong or their timing wrong - that happens often with any number of banned or restricted substances many of which are legal to use. But if in this new world of super sensitive testing no metabolites were detected HOW CAN THEY HAVE HAD ANY PHARMACOLOGICAL EFFECT? Explain that. BTW chemicals just don't suddenly disappear in a blood or urine sample when put in a bottle. You need a liver and kidneys to do that!

FFS do some more research. The amount of aminorex produced by the metabolism of Levamisole is very small and won't have a pharmacological effect. You might research stuff but you sure as hell don't understand. All you do is add to the BS that goes around.

I think that video was taken 5 years ago!

Yes but what the critics forget is that nearly every track in the country has a hard strip down the outside. It's generally where all the heavy machine tracks down including shifting the gates. Bit ironic that the Jockeys head for that strip when it suits and don't complain about slipping or crowding.

@the galah you are at least consistent at discussing stuff you obviously know nothing about. Aminorex has been around since 1968. It can be detected at levels well below the level that can have any pharmacological effect on a racehorse. It can be detected many days after administration. Why don't you apply to be sub-editor for @Archie Butterfly aka Peter Profit?

The fact is that the amount of aminorex metabolised from levamisole is very very small and not at a level to have any pharmacological effect.

Proof? Evidence or just hearsay?

Present in Barbarea vulgaris (Wintercress) which is common in NZ paddocks.

An interesting question. You would think that if NZTR funds the Association that the Association would have access to the new owners data at the very least. I'm not sure any first time owners get any information about the Association. Woops I think you were talking about the Trainers Association...

Hush money. Plus free tickets to the big days out.

Well I guess @Pete Lane you don't have a "fair idea" and buy into Pukekohe was fantastic and Te Aroha and Wanganui were shyte.

Good to see Te Aroha had a good day. Fair track and some jumps races as well.

Really? You are the one that stated you have a theory or in your words a "fair idea" about my motivation but are not willing to state it. How can anyone engage with innuendo, inference or unplublished supposition? You say I have an agenda but are not willing to state what that is. Rather than prevaricating I've been quite clear in my views.

Still waiting for your "fair idea". Do you have one? On what basis do you determine Te Aroha was worse? Looked to race very fair to me. Have you had feedback from trainers or Jockeys to the contrary?

A quick look at the results indicates as many favourites (if not more) won at Wanganui versus Pukekohe on Saturday.

Really? What's your "fair idea"? Have a look at the number of well performed horses that have come unstuck at Pukekohe recently. Pukekohe has been hammered by ATR.

Most of your posts are confusing particularly your data analysis.

In what way? It is winter racing in NZ afterall.

Same reason they were loathe to criticise Ellerslie after the KM. They perceive it creates negativity and affects their ability to attract and retain owners. The industry needs a strong Owners and Trainers Association.

Great ride': Shum, J-Mac react after Romantic Warrior heroics J-Mac and Romantic Warrior after the win (Image: Alex Evers / Twitter (X)) By Racenet 12:07pm • 03 June 2024 0 Comments By Leo Schlink in Tokyo (HKJC) Romantic Warrior completed an extraordinary season with G1 Yasuda Kinen (1600m) victory at Tokyo Racecourse on Sunday with a stunning performance which left jockey James McDonald almost speechless as Danny Shum's globe-trotter snared a fifth successive Group 1 feature. Underlining his status as one of the world's premier gallopers, Romantic Warrior became Hong Kong's third Yasuda Kinen victor, joining Fairy King Prawn (2000) and Bullish Luck (2006), while Voyage Bubble under Zac Purton finished a distant 17th of the 18 runners. With elite level victories in the G1 W.S. Cox Plate (2040m), G1 LONGINES Hong Kong Cup (2000m), G1 Citi Hong Kong Gold Cup (2000m), G1 FWD QEII Cup (2000m) and today's success, Romantic Warrior clinched his eighth Group 1 overall, enhancing his career record to 15 wins from 20 starts. Settling fifth, Romantic Warrior was angled into the clear in the home straight as the field climbed the sharp rise near the 300m mark before striking the lead. Driven out by McDonald, Romantic Warrior had half a length to spare on the line from Namur (Yutaka Take), while Soul Rush was a further nose further back under Joao Moreira. Watched in steady rain by a crowd of 44,577, Romantic Warrior clocked 1:32.30s. "James McDonald is world-class and he gave him a great ride. He loves Romantic Warrior and Romantic Warrior loves him a lot. He always tries his best for James," Shum said. "I wasn't too nervous because I was confident in my horse, my team and my jockey." Composing himself after posting his first win in Japan in one of the nation's premier races, McDonald said: "He's a champion racehorse and it's a very proud day for all of us – the whole team – because to showcase him to Japan was something very, very special in such a prestigious race. "I'm almost lost for words when I ride this horse because he's got a big heart and he tries his best all the time. It's such a hard jurisdiction to race in. There's such good horses and great jockeys so it's an absolute privilege to be here and to be winning such a prestigious race is very, very special." Earning HK$9 million for the victory, Romantic Warrior – a Hong Kong International Sale graduate and BMW Hong Kong Derby (2000m) winner – has now amassed HK$151 million in prizemoney, a figure bettered only by Golden Sixty's HK$167 million. In the post-race elation, Shum ruled out a tilt at the G1 Takarazuka Kinen (2200m) at Kyoto on 23 June and confirmed Romantic Warrior would return to Hong Kong with Voyage Bubble early this week to be spelled. "I think the best thing for the horse is to give him a break and let him rest. He's not going to race anymore this season," Shum said. Purton, who rode Paul O'Sullivan-trained Aerovelocity in Hong Kong's previous victory in Japan with success in the 2015 G1 Takamatsunomiya Kinen (1200m) at Chukyo Racecourse, said Voyage Bubble failed to handle the left-handed track. "The barrier (gate 15) didn't make a difference – I got beat 20 lengths," he said. "He's handled soft ground in Hong Kong before. He travelled on it today, his action was fine. I don't think the track was a concern for us. He just didn't fire in the straight. That's twice now he's gone left-handed and he's performed poorly both times, so I think left-handed is not really suitable for him – get him back going right-handed."

Perhaps he chose that option rather than trying to guess which way the riderless horse would go if he came alongside it.

Bit sad that the Foxton Cup and the Castletown Stakes had to be run at Wanganui.

Te Aroha back racing today after an enforced break. The track looks in great order for a heavy 8. Here's hoping the Club now gets a fair cut of the whip going forward. Really nice racecourse.