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@holy ravioli conveniently overlooks the contributions from the unions to Labour.

Who's going to wager on them?

My thoughts exactly. The NZ novelty races are worse because we have fewer horse numbers than OZ to draw on. A bit deja vu. Reminiscent of past so called "boom times" where the industry wasted money on similar races. Remember the Kelt! I see these new ones have nice PC names as well.

Full terms and conditions. Innovation Races 23-24.pdf

Piss off and ruin another Topic somewhere else while adults discuss this concept race and its obvious flaws here.

@Freda can probably tell us but Te Akau are there and Kenny Rae(?).

Good point but those Karaka races have some quality about them. Here we are leading up to Cup week at Riccarton and there is an Open Handicap 1400m race on Saturday with 13 starters with an average rating of 81.

Actually thinking about this a bit more isn't the industry going down the same stupid path it has done before? Spending windfall profits on stakes for a few while neglecting the infrastructure. Wouldn't $350k a year be better spent on improving the track and training facilities at Riccarton?

That's one way of looking at it. But what quality field would you get? 16 horses over 1600m? I'd imagine the quality would drop off real quick after 7 or 8.

So that's the objective? Give South Island trainers only the chance of winning a $350k race? The whole concept seems to be a bit off.

What isn't clear is the objective of the race. What are they trying to achieve? If that was clearly defined then the rules would be easier to make!

Had a wind operation I believe.

I imagine Te Akau will be targeting it. On The Bubbles is now resident in the south.

FFS take a long look in the mirror. You're an irritant who speaks in ideological slogans and throws clown emojis around like confetti. Barely any of what you write makes sense. If you don't vote Labour or National I can only assume you don't vote at all as far as I know there are no Communist party candidates.

I take it you are not laying Imperatriz in the Manikato? Or are you waiting until closer to the race? Presumably to see which way the blades of grass are leaning.

You can see it in the parade ring - he barely lifts his feet and looks like he is tripping over himself. If you watched him in the parade ring you wouldn't put any hard earned on him.

@holy ravioli any rational person would give you the award for BOAY's Most Deluded. Instead of throwing insults just sit down have a cup of tea and face the reality that you have at least another 3 years of living with a right of centre Government.

What are the other conditions? If you have a 3yr old and go tackle a black type race in the North Island - spend two weeks away does that make you ineligible for this race?

Some horses are like that. You wouldn't back the winner of the Caulfield Cup and third favourite to win the Melbourne Cup on how it walks in the parade wing.

Blinkers off Uncommon James for the first time.

I should set a pinned thread for the Entain/TABNZ app issues. The one today that is irksome is that Australian tote and bookies have the functionality to look at Saturday for those fields that have been declared e.g. the Cox Plate and the Manikato. TABNZ doesn't go past Friday and to see the same fields you have to go to Futures.

I like Alligator Blood, Fangirl and Militarize.

COX PLATE 1. ROMANTIC WARRIOR (D Shum) J McDonald - 59 - 7 2. ZAAKI (A Neasham) D Lane - 59 - 12 3. MR BRIGHTSIDE (B, W & JD Hayes) C Williams - 59 - 2 4. ALLIGATOR BLOOD (G Waterhouse & A Bott) T Clark - 59 - 5 5. GOLD TRIP (C Maher & D Eustace) M Zahra - 59 - 8 6. MY OBERON (A Neasham) J Mott - 59 - 4 7. PINSTRIPED (E Jusufovic) B Allen - 59 - 11 8. FANGIRL (C Waller) Z Purton - 57 - 9 9. DUAIS (E Cummings) D Oliver - 57 - 1 10. VICTORIA ROAD (A O'Brien) B Shinn – 56.5 - 6 11. MILITARIZE (C Waller) Z Lloyd (a) – 49.5 - 3 12. KING COLORADO (C Maher & D Eustace) M Dee – 49.5 - 10

"NZTR will be the sole judge to determine eligibility to compete." Interesting rule. The big stables will pillage. That's what happens when you distort the market.

Marl Walkers comments after trackwork. http://www.racing.com/videos/2023-10-24/could-imperatriz-set-another-record