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https://www.racingpost.com/profile/horse/3552538/manobo/form Rated 115.

Sorry to hear that you are leaving Jason. I may not have agreed with many of your opinions but I really respected your right to express them and the fact that you did. Sadly there is a nasty insidious sentiment within racing judiciary and administration that needs to be dealt to. Time for some leadership and hopefully we will see some in coming months. All the best and I hope your moving to OZ is fruitful for you. Certainly Racing there is more robust and not as insular as it is here.

Where are needle splints on the leg? He did have a problem around the top of his hooves. I remember Don Nyhan discussing it with my father and our trainer when our horse was stabled there. Our good colt was by Lordship and Don was adamant that he had the same problem. That was about 40 years ago and I can't remember the exact name for the condition.

Today I was notified of some unfortunate news regarding a Harness licensee. That person was recently disqualified by RIB for a period of 19 months. Sadly the affected person is now in intensive care in hospital. I don't think anyone would wish this outcome on someone. I also understand that there are some very very upset people in the industry. They are upset over how this matter has been handled. Until such time that either the RIB or HRNZ make public the details I would ask that BOAY posters refrain from starting new Topics on the matter. Thanks

At this stage if the information that I have received is correct then I have no option but to close down the discussion on this matter. I rarely do that but in these circumstances I think it is in everyone's best interest if I do. In the fullness of time I may reopen the discussion. Thanks.

Thank you for your erudite contribution to the discussion. It is obviously reflective of your breadth of knowledge on the subject.

But that isn't Ice treatment. Again that isn't Ice treatment. Unless they are injured it serves no purpose. If they are injured it may reduce inflammation. Rugby players have been taking ice baths after games for many years but the limited research into the effects of doing this have shown that it makes no difference to recovery or injury recovery. An old wive's tale? Has there been research on it? Cold temperatures reduce blood circulation. How does that help those tissues that have limited blood supply in first place? e.g. tendons. The advantage of swimming a horse or even walking them in water is that you provide resistance exercise without loading or stressing the horse's joints. It helps in recovery because you are providing low stress exercise in a stable temperature environment that helps the body process the waste products out of its system e.g. lactic acid. I don't know why Waller does it. However he does it differently to some by putting the horses in ice tubs. This makes sense to me as it is an environment where you can regulate the temperature and make sure it doesn't get too cold. It probably assists in bringing the core body temperature down to normal levels which would assist in recovery. But I can't see the value of localised ice packs as you have no control over how cold it gets nor how even the temperature is. Too low a temperature would have a negative rather than a positive effect.

So the leaks continue. I see on the HRNZ site she still has a license to drive at Trials and an advanced amateur license. No longer has a license to train. If she had copped a two year ban wouldn't she have no licenses?

Either side won't lose or win just because of a name change. The legal argument will focus on the applicable Act that I posted above. The only solution is a commercial mediation where the Council pays money or does a land swap to move the Racing Club on. There was some talk of that a couple of years back. Neither side has a particularly strong hand to play in the negotiation. Of course the left field option is NZTR testing the new Racing Act regarding the sale of assets but I'm not sure that that applies in this instance.

Of course the Arabs go a little bit further...... not needed at Riccarton in the middle of winter. Dubai uses extreme cold cryotherapy to treat racehorses in world first REUTERS REUTERS 22 August, 2019, 9:33 pm A horse undergoes a cryotherapy session, which surrounds its body in cold nitrogen mist, at the Zabeel Racing Stables in Dubai, UAE August 18, 2019. REUTERS/Satish Kumar DUBAI (Reuters) – In the searing summer heat of Dubai, some of the world’s top racehorses are being swathed in freezing nitrogen mist to boost their performance. Cryotherapy, which surrounds the body in a mist as cold as -140°C, has been used for decades on athletes to aid recovery and in medicine. A Dubai-based company, Revive Cryotherapy, says it is now offering the first whole body cryotherapy chamber for horses. “As far as recovery goes we are learning, but it is positive so far,” said Satish Seemar, head trainer at Zabeel Racing Stables which trains about 125 horses. “The horses start hopping quicker after their hard work and racing than without cryotherapy,” he added. Dubai, part of the United Arab Emirates, is known for its connections to elite horse racing. Its ruler, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, is an avid sponsor, owner and rider of horses. The emirate gives out multi-million dollar prizes at prestigious competitions. “Horse racing is a big business with prizes worth millions of dollars. With cryotherapy we have seen that you can train harder, recover quicker and you can race more often,” said Luka Jurkovic, general manager of Revive Cryotherapy. The company also offers the technology to humans and dogs and is thinking of expanding into the world of camel racing. “We will have to scale it up a bit as camels are obviously bigger,” Jurkovic said. Revive, which has two other bespoke horse cryotherapy cabins in Dubai, finished the testing phase in April and is now using it daily on horses at Zabeel Stables, a lush green space in the heart of Dubai’s high-rise financial district. The horses are gradually introduced to the cabin, which fits snugly around their bodies leaving their heads and necks free, and treated with the swirling cold mist. After a first few familiarisation sessions, they undergo a full treatment which lasts around seven minutes and cools their skin to about 3-5 degrees. The cabin doors are not locked allowing horses to escape if they panic. Cryotherapy is thought to help inflammation and tissue damage, and to help athletes – and horses – recover faster after exercise.

An ice tub will give a more even distribution of the cold temperature than ice packs. Would be interesting to know how deep the ice tubs are.

Still the same entity racing on the New Plymouth Recreation and Racing Reserve. Just a name change.

You have a tub in your float?

What for two miles? I don't think another 300m will worry the filly.

I thought it was up for renewal? Even so I can't see how the lease would be worth anything let alone the amount necessary to purchase land to build a track somewhere else. They are only able to hang in there because of the New Plymouth Recreation and Reserve Act. They aren't the only Track in that situation in NZ.

OK....I hadn't heard of any NZ trainer taking their horses home and put them in an ice tub. Actually I hadn't heard it before at all. I assume you have an industrial ice maker in your stable @curious?

Amore Vita wins Heat 1 of the NSW Oaks with ease.

17 years since the last 3 yr old colt won the Lightning. That being a horse called Fastnet Rock. Who you could say was a useful galloper and sire!

33.99 for the last 600m on her ear.

According to the 2021 Annual report Taranaki has $5m in property plant and equipment assets. I assume part of this property is stables and stands. But what value are they when they are on land leased from the New Plymouth District Council? The Council want to build a sports hub and close the track. However there is a Act of Parliament that gives the Racecourse some legal standing. Hence the current bun fight. Taranaki_fs_(1).pdf New Plymouth Recreation and Racecourse Reserve Act 1999.pdf

Maybe Foxton could flog Taranaki's High Speed fibre broadband circuit?