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One problem though is that now they have to do it EVERY time something similar happens. Otherwise it raises the possibility that in this instance a particular punter was favoured over others.

Well it appears the AWT at Awapuni will only be big enough to canter on. Given it is a bitumen road with sand on it perhaps they could have Go-kart circuit racing.

For a start it is a "rumour" and no doubt the article is all based on innuendo, inference and supposition. The trainer wouldn't have been named so how can anyone sue the scumbag excuse for a journalist? That said the inference given the clues is one stable in particular. As for the assertion that there has been a positive test to EPO then it would be a major coup for the NZ RIB given that positive tests to Human EPO in horses is a very rare event. When was the last one anywhere in the world? If there has been a positive then surely there would be an announcement from the RIB? If there has then someone is still leaking from the RIB.

They're all here: https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/45390/5/Race-Detail.aspx

Johnny Nevits has secured a start in race 5 at Ashburton 23 December 2021. Still trained by Cam Jones.

So the scumbag excuse for a journalist Peter Profit is making up shit? I see Johnny Nevits has a start in race 5 at Ashburton on Thursday.

I see Johnny Nevits is nominated for race 6 at Ashburton this Thursday 23 Dec 2021.

I'm surprised that if there has been another RIB raid at Woodend that it hasn't been reported on main stream media.

Fair points but we don't know how the ratings were measured. Is there any enforced standard that says ALL readings must have been measured with a penetrometer or going stick (are they officially used in NZ?)? For that matter isn't it a gap in the reporting that it isn't stated what method was used to determine the readings? I can understand as a trainer why you would be interested in the improvement in track conditions over the week however from a punter perspective it doesn't matter until within 24 hours of racing commencing.

Here's the video you refer to @Reefton - you wouldn't be "sniping from the sidelines would you"? 20170111HOKI05_BB.mp4

Dead 5 now. For the record here is the progression of readings: Monday Morning Weather: Fine Track: Dead 5 Rail: Out 2m Weather and Track updated at 6.29am Monday 20 December Sunday Afternoon Weather: Fine Track: Dead 6 Rail: Out 2m Weather and Track updated at 2.21pm Sunday 19 December Sunday Morning Weather: Fine Track: Slow 7 Rail: Out 2m Weather and Track updated at 8.00am Sunday 19 December Saturday Morning Weather: Fine Track: Heavy 10 Rail: Out 2m Weather and Track updated at 8.57am Saturday 18 December Friday Morning Weather: Drizzling Track: Heavy 11 Rail: Out 2m | 76mm Rain Past 48 Hours Weather and Track updated at 9.40am Friday 17 December Wednesday Morning Weather: Drizzling Track: Dead 6 Rail: Out 2m | 3mm Rain Overnight Weather and Track updated at 6.37am Wednesday 15 December Withdrawal Morning Weather: Cloudy Track: Dead 5 Rail: Out 2m | Drying Weather and Track updated at 7.41am Tuesday 14 December Nomination Afternoon Weather: Fine Track: Dead 6 Rail: Out 2m | Drying Weather and Track updated at 4.45pm Monday 13 December Nomination Morning Weather: Fine Track: Slow 7 | 12mm Rain Over Werekend Rail: Out 2m | 50mm Rain Last 7 Days Weather and Track updated at 8.10am Monday 13 December

I didn't even mention Pitty I was just responding to @curious's post. Are you obsessed with defending @Pitman even when he isn't mentioned? My reply was in reference to the fact that often a track is officially rated on raceday as a D4 or G3 and then proceeds to race much faster from Race 1. This is a problem throughout the country not just Riccarton. What does having "run a raceday" got to do with commenting on the track ratings? Once again I was responding to @curious's post regarding the deployment of "that device" which I assumed was an oblique reference to the penetrometer. Noting of course that a penetrometer doesn't officially have to be used as frequently as it appears to have been used at Ashburton. Hell they can gallop a horse over it and take the opinion of the Jockey! The improvement in track conditions is quite remarkable given the amount of rain that fell - now that either indicates a problem with the measurement, the track condition or something else. As for Jeff McLaughlin - is he the track manager and trained in using the penetrometer? Oh and before you get off your high rocking horse again @Reefton in response to @curious's post above I actually proffered a reason for the rapid improvement i.e. the presence of N to NW winds and high temperatures which as I said would "dry the lips off a camel"!

I doubt they will have gone to the effort of using the penetrometer that often. Too much work involved.

Which will be reported as a G3.

LOL they might have to irrigate tomorrow night!

Nup been blowing from N to NW all day - temp peaked at close to 28 degrees. 24 tomorrow NW.

Nor-Westers will dry the lips off a camel!

Don't know. Possibly not. There is a plethora of associations. I think the officially recognised one is the NZ Harness Trainers, Drivers and Owners Association.

But we all know who created it. I'm surprised someone so prominent in the industry seems to be fueling the fire.

You should get less dusty oats @Joe Bloggs

But how do we know that it isn't made up? Meanwhile no news out of RIB and no action or comment from HRNZ. Clements runs out the standard Police line - "No comment while investigations are ongoing".

I said he "may" struggle especially initially. For a start he will have to adjust to the closed system regime and probably do some tasks that are done for him at TA. In my opinion the TA strike rate from raids to OZ haven't been as high as they should be. As for quoting a Jockey's opinion, I've never taken any notice of their opinions on horses and trainers.

So the "inside bend" will go when the AWT is installed?

Is he a member of the Harness Racing Owners Federation? For that matter are you and do you have access to their Facebook page?