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Wouldn't rely on NZ sourced data. NASDAQ $72.70 Bloomberg - updates in real time. Be Kind Accurate!

Agreed. I liked the maturity in his racing style and that fact he could sit wide and not lose the plot. The second horse in the Slipper isn't too bad either but they kicked on to the Inglis Sires with him. He did win it on his ear though.

I think this winner of the Golden Slipper is extra special.

Interesting one of the co-authors in the O'Driscoll paper co-wrote this one: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214/ The key finding being that there is no difference between N95 Masks vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Amongst Health Care Professionals.

I know you are a busy man @curious in your retirement but if you do have a spare hour do some research on the impartiality of some of the science journals particularly Springer and Nature. This is a good place to start: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/10/03/book-publishers-part-ways-springer-nature-over-concerns-about-censorship-china It is bloody hard and time consuming to verify the veracity of research now - perhaps Professor Ioannidis's paper needs to be retitled - Why 75% of Published Research is False! We are only have to review the path over the last 20 months of the theory that Covid-19 originated as a Wuhan Lab escape!!

Why don't you peruse the research of an accomplished and respected scientist - Professor John Ioannidis - one of the most cited in the history of science. As of mid-2020 - John P.A. Ioannidis, of California’s Stanford University, has an h-index of 196 and was cited 267,437 times, ranking in 87th place. Perhaps this research for WHO: https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf Or perhaps this research - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7327471/ Or this where his IFR estimate is 0.15% or 99.85% of Covid-19 cases DON'T die!! https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13554 Or his essay on the Under and Over Estimation of Covid-19 deaths - https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00787-9 Or in your favourite "highest impact magazine" Nature this research about the number of self-citations (how many of O'Driscolls citations were SELF citations?) - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02479-7 But then perhaps when reviewing objectively O'Driscolll's research you might want to consider Ioannidis's seminal work which is one of the highest single most cited pieces of research: https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124 Ironically the title of that last research was: Why Most Published Research Is False!

Are you serious Curious? You know as well as I do that the academic performance measures are well and truly stuffed. Well I hope you know! It all got fucked up when the funding models were screwed. How many of the 97 citations were: Legit and cited by legit publications; Cited in critiques of the O'Driscoll's research; Cited on social media; Cited on news media; and so on and so on. Hand on heart you know that academic citations are a rort and have no correlation to the veracity or quality of the research.

"Highest Impact Factor" is measured how? I realise you are a social scientist @curious but I expected more rigour from you. As for your citation on age adjusted mortality the lead author is a Phd student with 3 publications who has jumped on the Covid-19 citation gravy train to climb the science rankings! Hardly an esteemed scientist of long standing. https://www.linkedin.com/in/megan-o-driscoll-4a429199?originalSubdomain=uk

I might be wrong but Level 3 looks like it has been tightened. Level 4 with takeaways. I just can't see how racing can be allowed. Although that said manufacturers are allowed to operate so..... It is just the Government employees that have to stay at home during Level 3 afterall aside from Doctors and Nurses none of them are "essential services" are they?

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Since Purcell left we have seen absolutely NOTHING from BS Saundry. As for Cameron George unless he has secretarial resources available to him in Australia we won't see any output from him and he won't be back in the country until Christmas at the earliest!! Even if the Warriors are now out of the playoff's. Actually wouldn't George as CEO of the Warriors have had more work to do back here in NZ than being "on tour" with the team? WTF could he have contributed to the training of the team? Actually looking at the results perhaps he did contribute. Arranging hotels and transport is hardly a CEO's job is it?

Is Covid-19 THAT serious? What's more where is the proof that ANY Government intervention other than complete isolation and border lockdown (which comes at considerable cost) has any effect on outcomes once the virus becomes endemic? BTW the Nature Journal as an evidentiary source lacks credibility. Equally I could post numerous research articles from reputable journals that have more substantive evidence supporting the opposite of what O'Driscoll contends.

Well that is a mistake. Shall we post a list of all the Health Sector SNAFU's? BTW we didn't elect Ashley Bloomfield or ANY of his risk adverse advisors.

Then lock them up in hazmat suits - don't go to the races - it's dangerous as a horse might jump the fence; don't go fishing - you drown in water; don't drink alcohol - it makes you fat and kills your liver; don't drive or travel on the roads - vehicles crash; don't have sex - exchanging body fluids exchanges lots of things. Where do you want us to courier the food parcels to?

So the fact that racing is continuing is not a "Health Decision"?

Let's see how many weeks did Bowman get? Tommy Berry got a month - still able to ride in the money races today though. Avadulla got 6 months.....woops sorry he broke his neck in the fall that his horse broke its leg.

I see Kah will be able to ride jumpouts and trials in 14 days. I wonder if they will appeal the 3 month race ban. Seems to be unjust to me. Arguably you get less for worse directly related to racing. For example how many weeks do you get for hospitalising a jockey and killing a horse? Add to that the fact that they have already been fined by Dan Andrews.

I guess the responses about sums things up. More want to reminisce about Balmerino who raced 42 years ago than our up coming Spring Carnivals.

Even without Sword of State what a great bunch of 3yr olds! R6 SAN DOMENICO STAKES 1100m 16:30 Racenet Tips & Race Analysis Bookie Offers (4) Fields & Form Speedmap Odds Sort: Runner Number Odds: Best Odds 1. Stay Inside (6) 3yoC ds 😄 4: 3-0-0 L10: 1141x T: R & M Freedman J: T Berry (58.5kg) 2.60 2. Captivant (1) 3yoC 😄 6: 2-0-2 L10: 14x3531x T: P & P Snowden J: H Bowman (58.5kg) 34 4. Paulele (5) 3yoC ds 😄 6: 4-0-0 L10: 11x671x1 T: J Cummings J: J M Donald (57kg) 2.50 5. Mazu (4) 3yoC ds(D/A) 😄 3: 1-0-1 L10: 13x5 T: P & P Snowden J: S Clipperton (55kg) 71 6. Remarque (2) 3yoC db 😄 3: 1-0-1 L10: 15x3 T: M, W & J Hawkes J: R Bayliss (55kg) 5 7. Ranch Hand (9) 3yoC s 😄 6: 1-1-1 L10: 135x200x T: C Waller J: K McEvoy (55kg) 101 8. In The Congo (3) 3yoC ds 😄 3: 1-2-0 L10: 122 T: G Waterhouse & A Bott J: T Clark (55kg) 11 9. Maotai (8) 3yoC d 😄 3: 1-1-0 L10: 124 T: K Fogden J: J Collett (55kg) 51 3. Sword Of State (7) 3yoC d 😄 5: 4-0-1 L10: 13111x T: J Richards J: K McEvoy (58.5kg) Scratched

And there is no other factors in the Covid stats? 14 deaths under the age of 19 out of 14,600 total all age deaths in Sweden. All if those 14 had other prexisiting life threatening illnesses. Most of those that have died in NZ would have died anyway regardless of with Covid-19. There is a growing realisation that regardless of the measures being taken people will die of/with Covid-19. How many is acceptable? Meanwhile because the politicians and the risk adverse health bureaucrats don't want to be honest with the public we are wasting billions of dollars to save - how many? When we know that those billions could have been spent to significantly improve health outcomes for ALL for years to come.

Then a possibly accurate measure would be age adjusted mortality. In Sweden over the course of 20 months it has been between 1 and 2%. The average mortality age has not changed. This outcome has been the case in many countries. Are you suggesting that there are bodies hidden somewhere?

An autopsy would be a good start. Also an assessment of how shortened was their life. For example the dementia patients that died were in advanced stage dementia. Reaching that stage your life expectancy is less than two years. Most of us have seen the quality of life of those that are unfortunate enough to get to that stage.