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Not unless the constitution allows a challenge at the AGM. Most constitutions allow such things if you have the numbers.
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But surely they are just indicating what will actually happen at the meeting? The positions have been uncontested. When were nominations called? When did they close? Can the member organisations challenge at the AGM under the constitution? I don't think it is an "old boys club" if member organisations didn't get their shyte sorted and nominated someone else. It is more a reflection of industry apathy than anything. This apathy has got worse as stakeholders see that they have less and less influence on what happens anyway and their clubs have been disenfranchised. Anyone with skin in the game who speaks out and against the flow gets shot down.
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Catalyst coming home for another spell?
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
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Catalyst coming home for another spell?
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
They should do away with the blinkers when they bring him back to racing. -
There are some rumours doing the rounds that Catalyst is coming back to NZ for a spell.
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BREAKING NEWS: James MacDonald falls off Nature Strip at Trials.
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
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Rule Number(s): 638(3)(b)(ii)Following Race 10 (Group 1 Tarzino Trophy), Stipendiary Steward, Mr Goodwin lodged an Information with the Judicial Committee alleging a breach of Rule 638(3)(b)(ii) in that Ms Johnson used her whip excessively when riding AVANTAGE prior to the 100m. At the outset of the hearing, Ms Johnson confirmed ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article
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Rule Number(s): 638(1)(d)Following the running of Race 6 (El Roca – Sir Colin Meads Trophy Listed Race), an Information was lodged by Mr Goodwin alleging a breach of Rule 638(1)(d) in that R Bishop allowed his mount KOBE ROCKS to shift in when not sufficiently clear of CUTTING EDGE which was checked near the 400 metres. Mr Goodwin ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article
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Rule Number(s): 638(3)(b)(ii)Following Race 2, Stipendiary Steward, Mr Goodwin lodged an Information with the Judicial Committee alleging a breach of Rule 638(3)(b)(ii) in that Troy Harris used his whip excessively prior to the 100m. At the outset of the hearing, Mr Harris confirmed he understood the Rule and that he admitted the ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article
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BREAKING NEWS: James MacDonald falls off Nature Strip at Trials.
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
No harm to James Mac - back riding in the next trial. No word on Nature Strip but seems OK. -
But the assumption with "using the facility more" is a bad one based on the premise that we can get thousands back to the races. The fact is in today's age that isn't going to happen. Remember "a day out at the races" is in fact a "day out". Name any other sporting activity in New Zealand that lasts 5 to 6 hours AND attracts large crowds. Putting a harness track inside the galloping track at Wingatui negates one of the oncourse advantages of harness - you are close to the action when you stand beside the outside fence. You are still close to the action when you have a purpose built stand close to that fence. If you can't get a crowd to Forbury putting harness 20km away at Wingatui isn't going to change that. Plus don't forget that Forbury houses both harness and greyhound racing. Why should those two codes "sell out" to Wingatui? Forbury Park Trotting Club didn't lose money on its racing activities but on its catering business. Have a look at the "new facilities" that are being built around the world for gallop tracks. Pakenham for one. They are not huge grandstands that hold thousands of spectators but small stands closer to the action that accommodate owners and trainers and the few local diehards.
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I've thought about this article over the last day or so and have worked out the agenda. It is following the consult part of the new legislation. It is smoke and mirrors leading to the justification to confiscate the courses. Basically - "well Minister we followed the legislation, spent money on engaging expert consultants and the Otago/Southland racing stakeholders and we couldn't get agreement. So we need to confiscate Forbury, build an AWT at Wingatui, confiscate Riverton and close it down." I guess NZTR have shown their hand now and the process has started. At the end of the day I still believe we are heading down a path of self-destruction for the wrong reasons. Replacing a low-cost model of racetrack operation with a high-cost one is not the answer. The issue is and has always been the largesse and poor management by NZRB and the code administrators. THAT is where the high costs that have dragged the industry down have been.
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The whole country has been forced to go "overboard". But racing needs to be like Caesar's wife - beyond reproach. Afterall racing can't afford too much scrutiny can it when they have been the beneficiary of large sums of taxpayer money to keep it afloat during the last year! I wasn't going to comment on what I saw at Hastings on Saturday - too easy to be critical about everything at the moment and to be honest the general public wouldn't have noticed - how many of them actually have a TAB account that has money in it that allows them to watch the racing online or those with a SKY subscription even bother to switch channels on a Saturday afternoon? But what your post Freda highlighted to me is what is really wrong with the industry at the moment. The inconsistency and the treatment of the average stakeholders (owners, punters, support industries etc.) with arrogance and apparent disdain. The inconsistent application of Covid-19 protocols on Saturday was glaringly obvious and as your rightly point out Freda what does it say to those owners that were turned away from Riccarton recently? The classic for me was when the Bary Stable representative was shown in the stand with a bunch of hangers on (I thought Callsign Mav was Australian owned?) leaping up and down when Callsign Mav won. No masks! We then see that rep galloping down the stairs from the stand with no mask - next minute he is being interviewed on TV with a mask hanging around his neck. Obviously Big Sweney handed him one before he got in front of the camera. Inconsistency! This is the rule from NZTR when did it change for Hastings? No attendances at Race or Trial meetings (clause 2.1(a)(v)) Whilst there is provision in the Level 2 Directive for attendance of owners, sponsors or other ticketed guests, provided that this is done in line with government mandated requirements, NZTR has suspended this provision until further notice. This will be reviewed after the next Government announcement on Alert Levels. Aligned to this decision, there will be no provision for on-course wagering, except where self-service terminals are already on site. Applying a rule inconsistently is worse than having no rule at all. Look at the difference between NZ and OZ - if what we had seen at Hastings had happened at Rosehill then Monday Morning's RIU report would have been littered with substantial fines and suspensions!
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The only way to stop the wax melting in high temperatures is to apply water to keep it cool! Supposedly Polytrack is the least sensitive of synthetic surfaces to moisture. But that doesn't explain why there have been issues aka Pakenham. I can understand under laboratory conditions where the Polyfill maintains its moisture properties but in the practical world subjected to climate and mechanical forces I can see how it would have issues.
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Saturday, 19 September 2020 Three codes urged to work collaboratively By Steve Hepburn Bernard Saundry The next step in the regional racing review for the South will take place next week but all parties are being urged to get involved. As part of the decision to give the Forbury Park Trotting Club in Dunedin dates for the season, a review into the Otago-Southland racing structure had to be undertaken. It was to be completed by December but that looks like a very tight timetable. New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing chief executive Bernard Saundry said the review was about how the racing industry involving the three codes — thoroughbreds, standardbreds and greyhounds — would have a sustainable future in the Otago-Southland region. "Ultimately clubs in the region can build their own future. It is a really important the three codes work together," he said. "There is always politics in these sort of things but the sole focus should be how we can make racing the best it can be in the region," Saundry said three business consultant companies would come back to the New Zealand Racing board next week and offer ideas on how the review would take place and what methodology would be used to progress the review. From there the board would study the ideas and map out how the review would take place. Clubs and stakeholders would be engaged and there would be research and analysis on the economics of racing. "We want to be engaging the racing community and asking what does racing need to look like in five to 10 to 15 years. It is a very important piece of work and we’ve got to have the three codes working together. There is no use each code working out on its own without understanding what other codes are doing. "We want an efficient business which works for the benefits of the three codes, driving participation, ownership and improving wagering outcomes." One suggestion was to build an all-weather track at Wingatui using the proceeds from the sale of the land where Forbury Park was located. Saundry said nothing would be ruled out and everything was on the table. He admitted a lot of work had to be done and come December no firm plan on where the next 10 years would lead would be decided upon. It would be a phased process. The review simply had to be carried out. "This has to be done... You’ve got to own the future of the sport. "It’s an exciting opportunity for clubs to revitalise venues in the region and they should be making the most of the opportunity." He acknowledged there would be parochialism between regions but this could be used in a good way. The codes had been living in the past for too long and it was time to put parochialism away and work together. Other parts of the country such as the Auckland region were also undertaking reviews of the sector.
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Saturday, 19 September 2020 Three codes urged to work collaboratively By Steve Hepburn Bernard Saundry The next step in the regional racing review for the South will take place next week but all parties are being urged to get involved. As part of the decision to give the Forbury Park Trotting Club in Dunedin dates for the season, a review into the Otago-Southland racing structure had to be undertaken. It was to be completed by December but that looks like a very tight timetable. New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing chief executive Bernard Saundry said the review was about how the racing industry involving the three codes — thoroughbreds, standardbreds and greyhounds — would have a sustainable future in the Otago-Southland region. "Ultimately clubs in the region can build their own future. It is a really important the three codes work together," he said. "There is always politics in these sort of things but the sole focus should be how we can make racing the best it can be in the region," Saundry said three business consultant companies would come back to the New Zealand Racing board next week and offer ideas on how the review would take place and what methodology would be used to progress the review. From there the board would study the ideas and map out how the review would take place. Clubs and stakeholders would be engaged and there would be research and analysis on the economics of racing. "We want to be engaging the racing community and asking what does racing need to look like in five to 10 to 15 years. It is a very important piece of work and we’ve got to have the three codes working together. There is no use each code working out on its own without understanding what other codes are doing. "We want an efficient business which works for the benefits of the three codes, driving participation, ownership and improving wagering outcomes." One suggestion was to build an all-weather track at Wingatui using the proceeds from the sale of the land where Forbury Park was located. Saundry said nothing would be ruled out and everything was on the table. He admitted a lot of work had to be done and come December no firm plan on where the next 10 years would lead would be decided upon. It would be a phased process. The review simply had to be carried out. "This has to be done... You’ve got to own the future of the sport. "It’s an exciting opportunity for clubs to revitalise venues in the region and they should be making the most of the opportunity." He acknowledged there would be parochialism between regions but this could be used in a good way. The codes had been living in the past for too long and it was time to put parochialism away and work together. Other parts of the country such as the Auckland region were also undertaking reviews of the sector.