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On that note the Topic is locked. I suggest that you all take a closer look at what is happening on Trackside now. It is a barebones production.

My post wasn't referring to you. Being a subscriber doesn't give free reign to write whatever one wants to I.e. override the rules. However any subscriber is greatly appreciated.

Good point Dougie. Why don't you start a new Topic? I'm close to locking this one.

I have no idea why he chooses to post nothing more than attacks on Brodie. Quite frankly I find it obsessive and weird. Perhaps it is the online version of the inverse bully syndrome.

Case in point. You've turned it all into something it isn't and have made it personal rather than debating the topic. No Brodie hasn't invested in fact no one has. There are a number of subscribers who enable this forum to keep providing people such as yourself a free unrestricted online forum to pontificate about anything you feel motivated to. There are only two people on that have been moderated Thomass and Mehe. Mehe is moderated because he is fixated on attacking Brodie and seldom if ever starts a Topic of interest nor post a view that doesn't involve a personal attack. In that regard Mikie you walk a fine line.

BTW Mikie you keep referencing my debates with Pitty as some form of comparison. The difference is I started the Threads Pitty responded. At times we disagreed but if you read the whole content you will find that we actually agree on many things.

My perspective is that there are changes in broadcasting that are occurring at random without warning. I've seen it happen the last couple of Saturdays. The studio staff don't seem to be warned that it is happening. That in my opinion is the bigger issue. As I've said I suspect that the production staff has been cut to a minimum, the desk presenter is working from a satellite makeshift studio at Te Rapa and it is a cost cutting driven initiative. With regard to this topic why was the race in question simulcast on both channels? Where was that advertised? With regard to scheduling where do we find it? What's the deal now? There used to be a clear directive now it seems to be random. Most of you guys are harness followers so you are unlikely to have picked up on what is happening. Afterall you should be used to being relegated to channel 2 when there are NZ Gallops on.

Not at all I'm confident Brodie can defend himself. As for protecting him - what would I be protecting him from? You? Mehe? At the end of the day it seems some are intent on forming gangs and being king pins. From my perspective I dont give a shyte and find the posturing amusing. To sum up Brodie had a point and as I posted I've seen the same issues that he has. However some of you have gone past discussing the issue and have gone on a personal attack. Mikie if you want to drop to Mehe's level then that's your choice.

You come to shit stir.

Mehe is not posting!

Breath testing CWJ.

So much for integrity.

Doesn't work like that if you are following a particular race meeting e.g. Randwick last Saturday where they switched without warning. Also if you are saying watching/listening to the inane commentary between races on Trackside 1 is better than back to back racing....well we have different standards!

Pre-Bendigo Cup. UPDATED ORDER OF ENTRY (horse, trainer, weight) 1. VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ), Chris Waller, 55.5kg 2. SIR DRAGONET (IRE), Ciaron Maher & David Eustace, 55.5kg 3. OCEANEX (NZ), Mick Price & Michael Kent (Jnr), 51.5kg 4. PERSAN, Ciaron Maher & David Eustace, 51kg 5. ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE), Aidan O’Brien, 58.5kg 6. VOW AND DECLARE, Danny O’Brien, 57kg 7. AVILIUS (GB), James Cummings, 57kg 8. RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE), Danny O’Brien, 53.5kg 9. MASTER OF REALITY (IRE), Joseph O’Brien, 56kg 10. TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE), Joseph O’Brien, 55.5kg 11. TIGER MOTH (IRE), Aidan O’Brien, 52.5kg 12. MUSTAJEER (GB), Kris Lees, 55kg 13. STRATUM ALBION (GB), Willie Mullins, 55kg 14. PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB), Charlie Fellowes, 54.5kg 15. WARNING, Anthony & Sam Freedman, 53kg 16. SURPRISE BABY (NZ), Paul Preusker, 54.5kg 17. DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB), Andrew Balding, 54.5kg 18. FINCHE (GB), Chris Waller, 54.5kg 19. ETAH JAMES (NZ), Ciaron Maher & David Eustace, 52.5kg 20. MIAMI BOUND (NZ), Danny O’Brien, 51kg 21. THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ), Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman, 53.5kg 22. STEEL PRINCE (IRE), Anthony & Sam Freedman, 53.5kg 23. KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR), Danny O’Brien, 53.5kg 24. TRUE SELF (IRE), Willie Mullins, 52kg 25. ZEBROWSKI (NZ), Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes, 52kg 26. SAN HUBERTO (IRE), Matt Cumani, 53.5kg 27. NICKAJACK CAVE (IRE), Peter G Moody, 53.5kg 28. PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ), Peter G Moody, 53kg 29. ASHRUN (FR), Andreas Wohler, 53kg 30. HUSH WRITER (JPN), Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott, 52.5kg 31. LE DON DE VIE (GB), Anthony & Sam Freedman, 52.5kg 32. SKYWARD (FR), Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young, 52.5kg 33. SOUND (GER), Michael Moroney, 52kg 34. AZURO (FR), Ciaron Maher & David Eustace, 52kg 35. CHAPADA, Michael Moroney, 52kg 36. CARIFH, Peter & Paul Snowden, 52kg 37. HAKY (IRE), Archie Alexander, 52kg 38. GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR), Archie Alexander, 51kg 39. PONDUS (GB), Joseph O’Brien, 51kg 40. SCHABAU (GER), Robert Hickmott, 50.5kg 41. ATTORNEY (FR), Matthew Smith, 50kg 42. LORD BELVEDERE (GB), Ciaron Maher & David Eustace, 50.5kg 43. ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN), Paul Preusker, 50kg 44. FUTURE SCORE (IRE), Matt Cumani, 50kg 45. SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE), Danny O’Brien, 50kg 2020-10-26-lexus-melbourne-cup-elimination-order-as-at-oct-26-2020.pdf

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So isn't that part of the problem? Shouldn't there be uniform and enforceable standards throughout the country? I just posted in another topic the level of track information provided to EVERYONE for Flemington. Why can't we see the penetrometer readings? Afterall at the end of the day we are all in this game together. The more minds assessing the data the better off we'll be. What actually does NZTR do? Apart from hire 3 different business consultancy firms to determine how to carve up club track assets!

Doesn't Riccarton have to conform to NZTR Venue Guidelines and Standards?

Geez Pitty get a grip! Are you under pressure? I've already said that the track at Riccarton on Saturday was a lot lot better than October 3rd!!!! Apparently took a lot of water to get it there though! OK so your assessment of Danielle's comment on Weigh In (comment on her Bourbanaire ride) is that she was having a subtle serve at Riccarton NOT Te Rapa? She was riding for Stephen Marsh in that instance. SO specifically what did I post that was a "load of crap"?

To be fair to Brodie that pic doesn't prove anything! I know what he is talking about because I've been caught out as well. Where without warning a particular race is switched to Trackside 2. In this case I suspect that the race was simulcast on both channels. If you wanted to record all the races from Randwick on Saturday you would have been out of luck because they flicked a couple of races from 1 to 2. They other thing that might have caught Brodie out is the old bug bear of recording. The recording slots are two hours so you need to book in at least two slots to record an entire meeting or just record everything which can lead to running out of space real quick. The Trot race in question was just in the 4-6pm slot running at 4:14pm. So if you didn't book the next slot then you would have missed the race. Why they hell do they split it this way?

If you have been following my posts on tracks over the last few years you will acknowledge that I've given Te Rapa a few serves. In my opinion same problem on Saturday different location. At least Te Rapa upgraded from D4 to G3. However Te Rapa on Saturday was a different class of horse to those running at Riccarton on 3rd of October - maidens were running faster times at Riccarton! Also we didn't see clouds of dust at Te Rapa that we saw at Riccarton. I think the issue is we have set a target of G3 and everything has be "re-aligned" to achieve that target. Riccarton on 3rd October wasn't a G3 it was a G2 - Te Rapa on Saturday wasn't a D4 it was a G3. That leads me to believe that the measurement system is all out of whack. When was the last time that the measurement tools were re-calibrated?

They were. If you watched Weigh In a couple of Jockey's gave it a server especially Danielle Johnson. If you have been following my posts on tracks over the last few years you will acknowledge that I've given Te Rapa a few serves. In my opinion same problem on Saturday different location. At least Te Rapa upgraded from D4 to G3. However Te Rapa on Saturday was a different class of horse to those running at Riccarton on 3rd of October - maidens were running faster times at Riccarton! Also we didn't see clouds of dust at Te Rapa that we saw at Riccarton. I think the issue is we have set a target of G3 and everything has be "re-aligned" to achieve that target. Riccarton on 3rd October wasn't a G3 it was a G2 - Te Rapa on Saturday wasn't a D4 it was a G3. That leads me to believe that the measurement system is all out of whack. When was the last time that the measurement tools were re-calibrated?

Proof? Probably like INCA you don't have any.

So you are saying that no one takes notice of the "guideline standards"?

But is it a "guideline" or a "standard" or a "guideline standard" as per the title of the document? Secondly I suspect that there is an unwritten rule now that you can irrigate up to Thursday night before a Saturday meeting and no one asks for permission.