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Rule Number(s): 870(3), 1003(2, Breaking Horse RegulationsMiss Haley alleged that in Race 3 horse number 6 DON’T NEED AN EXCUSE galloped in excess of 50 metres in the run home. Miss Haley sought disqualification of DON’T NEED AN EXCUSE pursuant to r 1003(2). Judges placings were: 1st - 12 RAKABEACH 2nd - 5 MIGHTY GEORGE 3rd - 6 DON’T NEED AN EXCUSE 4th – 2 ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article

Rule Number(s): 870(5)Following the running of Race 10 (Woodlands Stud “DOWNBYTHESIDE” Mobile Pace 2400m), an Information instigating a Protest was lodged alleging that horse number 2 breached the provisions of Rule 870(5) in that “HANDS UP JACK broke late in the run home and was lapped on by MORDECAI”. The Judge’s placings ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article

The Manual needs a total overhaul before any changes in personnel.

Yeah well I'm a born and bred West Coaster too and I still don't agree with Guerin. Most Coaster's don't seek the lime light and just go about their business. The treatment of Coast racing by NZRB/NZTR says a lot about what is wrong with NZ racing. Most Coaster's are hard working eking out a living through hard work. Not for them suits, makeup, pontificating and seeking attention on TV and social media. Full credit to the Westland Racing Club in Hokitika (the racecourse that was my first introduction to racing) for giving the finger to RITA/NZTR and giving their assets back to the community that founded it. That isn't "petty small town parochialism" that's loyalty and integrity. Something the big gang of 5 should take note of.

Pottle kettle. Can you give us a race meeting where your theory applies? To further confuse punters like you. Regardless of whether the information is provided or not you haven't shown us how you would use it. The thin outline of methodology that you have posted so far is flawed. Nothing hard about it at all. But what's the point to the punter? The Jockey's are the only ones who can effectively use this information to improve their horse's chances. The punter can't.

Of course the Assistant Starter saw she wasn't ready......

Normally it is the horse in front that dictates where the field runs. So if you draw inside then I would have thought that you have a good chance of getting to the front and dictating where the field runs. If you are on locked in on the fence (this happens on Fast 1, Good 2, Good 3....well any track condition) you are more likely to get off the rail if it is a H10 or H11 or the inside running is off because all the jockeys are looking for the "better" ground. Generally on a Good 2 or 3 and you are locked 3 back on the inner then you have issues.

Does this only apply if it is a H11 not a H10? I just had a quick squiz at the results for Wanganui last September which was run on a H10. Half the winners draw 3 or better. Barrier 3 got 2 wins, 2 got 1 and 1 got 1. In the race that barrier 1 won the horse that was 2nd draw 2. As for the rest of the races it doesn't seem that the inside barrier affected any of the chances of the favourites.

I won't ask Thomaas this question has I'll get a Dickhead answer preceded by a Dickhead and ending with a Dickhead. Mardigras: How does SW&P discourage punters? For that matter how does Handicap racing encourage punters to bet more? In my opinion there are bigger issues with the handicapping system that would discourage punters e.g. the 2kg female allowance, the limited upper and lower weight limits and the corresponding lack of spread.

Who in their right mind would take any notice of Mick Guerin. Oh....you of course.

I thought it was the A & P Society.

Not at all. I for one have been consistent in my arguments and opinion.

So you had already selected your bet. The "information" you received only motivated you to put more money on. It didn't change the your assessment of chance. If the new meters measure moisture then they need to be calibrated on a track by track basis. For example a Strathayr track will always return a higher moisture content than a track that has poor soil structure yet be classed as Good. You'll eventually get caught out using this information they way you are. Too much variation for something that you have no control over. The person who got the "sling" will no doubt be knocking on your door again until the day it all goes wrong.

OK the debate is getting too hard for you. Quite simply if you can't explain how these new measurements are of any use to you then I suggest they are of no use to anyone. BTW I'm here to stay - if I go away then so does BOAY unfortunately.

You back to writing fiction Thomaas? Well at least you seem to agree that voice signals in such an environment are flawed.

LOL - "MAY not suit it"!? What's the Jockey going to do find the lane that suits it? LOL. Yep that's a winner! Given the size of our fields now and the width of the Wanganui track I don't see this as a problem. Who knows the Jockey might look fo the gaps through the middle. Again you have no control over the paths taken so why worry about it when reviewing chance?

Good question. Ask the RIU who is responsible for the Starters Card. Freda just gave us another example of where the information on it was lacking. I've done no such thing. I know it is beyond your comprehension because of the logical rationale behind what I wrote however at no point have I disagreed that the button shouldn't have been pushed. HOWEVER I believe that the process as described is FLAWED and is open to error. For a start a visual signal would be far better than a voice signal in an environment which is noisy and extremely busy. Don't the Japs use flags? For example: "The Assistant Starter is holding up the Yellow Flag which indicates that all starters are in the gates. The Starter has now raised the Green Flag which indicates he has Power and they are about to start"... What is so hard for you to comprehend that the Manual is FLAWED!!!! I doubt you have even read it.

I don't recall Mardigras calling me either. You consistently fire abuse at ANYONE who offers an opinion different to yours. Park your ego. So what? As a Punter you have no control over how the information is used by the only person that can effect a change i.e. The Jockey. So why bother including a variable you have no control over nor can definitively measure? You still haven't given us an example of how it changed your betting at Awapuni, Otaki or Wanganui or anywhere for that matter.

Precisely. Can't blame the Starter for something that is beyond his/her control. The Manual as it stands currently is flawed. If the Manual spent as much time on the procedures as it does on who can and can't have a bet then it would be a damn sight better.

Can you cut the personal abuse please or you are outta here. Not good to bite the hand that enables your insatiable desire for attention. So what if the rail is a death trap (no deaths been reported yet) - as a Punter you have no control over how that information is used so why bother including it in your assessments. The only reason it should be included is to confuse mug punters and enhance the return to better punters.

You EXPLAIN how it affects your punting strategies. As yet you haven't given us any examples. The fact is as a Punter you have ZERO control over how that information is used in a race. Only the Jockeys can respond to it.

RITA are joking aren't they? The NZTAB - "valuable"!

It didn't seem to have any effect on horses chances. Hardly surprising when half the races had less than 8 starters. Good to see the jockey's compensated.

Rule Number(s): 869(2)Miss Haley, Stipendiary Steward, alleged that Mr Campbell the driver of JACCKA TED in race 6, used his whip on more occasions than is permitted by the Use of the Whip Regulations. This is a breach of r 869(2). Miss Haley identified JACCKA TED on the race films. She demonstrated that the Respondent, who ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article

Rule Number(s): 869(3)(b)Mr Munro, Stipendiary Steward, alleged that Mr Hurrell (MOTORING MAJOR) drove carelessly in race 12 by shifting inwards when not fully clear of VIN SCULLY (R Holmes) which broke checking COOLHAND EASTON, PICK SIX TELF, LOCK IT IN EDDIE and NIRVANA BEACH. Mr Munro demonstrated on the films that MOTORING ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article