A trainer forgotten from the past, think he trained at Fairview from memory, trustum, dryden, another couple used to be down that way, also B Jones who I remember won a jarden mile with Johnny Alone, by un fancied sire Blue Vermillion, I remember giraffe was a grey horse by standaan, a very good sire of wet trackers, may have won more over the jumps than on the flat, aptly named.