Won't argue with you on that score, been caught out a few times, well I guess not, as the changing odds, were never achievable, shouldn't happen, many fine memories of the hoki races in the early days, quite a few trainers on the coast, Pope an hurren a couple locals I remember, Jim Keenan was president then, think he had a handy mare called Maundy Money, back then, a couple of horses I used to follow, ernest, a nice looking black, gaucho, the good ole days the manual tote, not quite the same as the tv monitors these days, or the infield jockeys board.