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Chill bill,, what will be will be, nothing we can do about it, wether we keep an eye or even two on the weather, and don't trust those forecasts, nothing like a good ole wet track to throw a few roughies, just the way I like it

Who holds the track records for the wingatui course these day, remember the good ole days, when clubs always published them in race books, know one seems to care these days.

Heck, looks like ya needed a road block outside the gates, with a de tour via the car park, certainly looks grim,thought a colleagues charge would finally break maidens, next time maybe, that over due, she'll be mildew.

Interesting one, for me holiday makers, i wouldn't imagine spending up to much on betting, then I guess if theirs enough of them may make a difference.

Well done reefton, good turnover for very small fields and a week day,any idea of off course turnover, may have been a 5$ entry, time to spread those stakes around a bit more, I'm sure some smaller clubs with better turnover be grateful.

You would haven ridden quite a few winners in your time Bill, from memory you did a few stints in the lucky country as well.

Hopefully the forecast improves, they've got quite a few wrong lately, mate over the coast said they were on a rain watch, hardly got a drop.

Noticed oncourse the other day the tote staff pushing fixed odds, telling me that they were better than tote odds at the time I was putting my bet on, others just done it without telling you, are they pushing the fixed odds more for some reason, last greymouth meeting was pleased to come out on right side for a change, my bet captain upham, was around 35s fixed an tote about 30sec before start time, took tote odds and ended 67s, when fixed closed at 40s, quite a few times I've been caught on the wrong side, don't understand how the comparisons are so different at times

How very true, certainly been in the game for many a year, and supplied a lot of horses up and down the island for a long time, I remember few years back racing the grand mare kiwi idea at riverton, they've had a lot of very good horses over the years, diablo girl, tidy sprinter, a couple from my era I used to follow sharemarket and share offer, definitely not there best, but many I would have forgotten.

Has a few young ones in at reefton tomorrow, kumara noms out today, guess with three meets in a week, one club will miss out, light numbers for reefton, a struggle to find a roughie.

Heck that's a big difference, would've loved that 235, cheers for your info on the odds an betting, much appreciated.

Yes a horse called Sinai Sermon, Westport trots last March meeting 32 v 54 took tote odds at reefton 2 days he won again and paid 40s tote odds 34 from memory fixed, been exported to China now, also happen to me with miss onaki, 27s v 42, in fairness did put my bet on a couple hrs earlier due to work commitments, on the other side captain upham I got 67s tote v 40 fixed. All abit suspect to me.

So the sp relates to tote odds not fixed odds, I've notice some odds change when the race has started, hence no show of obtaining them, one would think given today's technology that shouldn't happen at all, I got ripped last March when my 31s tote price, changed from 31 to 52 fixed, about 5 seconds from race start.

Very frustrating as a trainer an punter, your unruly horse steps like a champ, but oh no it's a false start, re run an it blows to bits, typical, happened to me with evangelist first day when at 40s plus, next to starts from mobile an is favourite, crazy, same happened to a with a trotter, needs to be resolved, shouldn't happen, surely must be some technology that can help,

Excuse my ignorance but is the all up better because its tote odds, or other reason.i took s multi with captain upham today, unfortunately a average ride in my first leg tripped me up, I've alway wondered which option was better.