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There is always value in 15 horse fields. I thought Copperhead Rose was good money at 21s on opening. Goes good on grass

No but the public do jump to ridiculous conclusions, for example almost every second post here in the last two weeks, and I would not be surprised if some drivers and trainers believed it was just not worth the hassle talking to the media. Calling all trainers childish and moronic on public forums will go down well with them though!

I can see their point. You can not force the trainers and drivers to tip if they do not want to. Maybe the galah should ring all the drivers and trainers and post their tips here for us to see.

The track used to be 1600 metres (one mile) in circumference with a 400-metre (two-furlong) straight, but much smaller now.

The way the justice system works could be years☹️

Me too. It made the Methven track one of a kind. Someone start a petition bring back the long straight.

I was there on the day brings back some great memories

He was in full damage control I heard

A mate who was at the court today said apart from the reporting coming direct from court the the judges biggest telling off of the day went to Martin Van Beyen for publishing the names of several people before it went to trial. He reckoned Police also got a blasting for briefing the press.

Not really. Sit and sprinter but never got carted into it before the turn on a leaders track. Victim of circumstances may not have placed if he did all the work himself.

CrossCodes I know! Brodies black is actually white style of debate always gives me a migraine but he is always good for a windup.

I agree with the fact that DadnDave was surprisingly short but don't think you will get Brodie to admit the bookies got the price right. It goes against his I am always right mentality.

No you missed the point. When the bookies all around the world set the odds ideally they will be trying to get the opening fixed odds as close to the closing tote odds as possible. The big descrepancies or differences in opening fixed odds to closing tote odds are normally where the bookmakers lose money. In this case (Dadndave) the bookies were almost exactly right. If Dadndave closed at $10 on the tote then you would be right but in this case you are not on the money. You would be better pointing out the big descrepancies between prices after the race to make your point where they got it wrong. At this stage the TAB bookies will just be laughing at you. Disclaimer: I have some UK booktrading experience from several years ago

Just stating the facts as usual. You said It opened up way too short yet the tote closing price was lower than the opening price so it they opened it over the odds to what the public thought the price was. What did you think should have been the opening price?

Looks like you were not on the money again Brodie. Paid $4.40 and $1.60 on the tote. Bookies were giving you overs on opening.

Back it when it goes out.

New news everyday. Who knows how deep the rabbit hole goes!

I think the cop was asking him if he had a winner for this week.

If it was backed up by phone conversations,emails,texts with drivers telling each other how they will drive the race out then pretty damming evidence.

Because the public want to know

If I was a driver and in front I would be having a look to see where my toughest opposition was too. Hard to argue anything sinister happening with just looking around.

Most people have no idea about harness racing fixing and how it would occur, so this article would definitely give them an insight into how it could be done. I would guess they are getting asked by every man and his dog how did they do the fixing!

Sorry but the Police will do all the dirty work and clean up the industry and Godber will get a pat on the back and maybe even a medal.

Well he drove a couple of winners there yesterday so not sure if you are on the money with that info!