Nowornever

It might be flawed but the truth is racing turnover in general is on the decline so the only way the guys on the big salaries can justify keeping their jobs is to copy the risk management style of overseas bookies to get the yield up in the face of dropping turnover. All I see for winning punters is lower restrictions coming or total bans all together.

The spirit of bookmaking ended with the corporate bookies in the UK several years ago and over the last 4-5 years has slowly permeated to firstly Aussie and now NZ. You are lucky if you can get get $5 on a horse in the UK now I hear.

Yes looks like it is a numbers game now, and profit comes at the expense of the spirit of bookmaking in years gone by.

Thats the way the fixed odds work! They will be getting pummeled on Mr Midnight and drifting all the others to attract some money and even up the books.

Simple rule of thumb: If the horse you like is too short on opening then wait until it drifts and clean up. If it stays the same price or moves in further then the TAB have got the price right on opening and there is little you can do about it. I would like Lazarus to open at 15s in the NZ cup too but it is not going to happen I am thinking. Agree the place odds open too short nowadays but I imagine they do that just to piss Brodie off.

Mmmm! Me thinks I have heard this topic discussed before somewhere but can not remember where!? Have you got any examples or will you pull out the usual (no every horse is too short) quotes! Every time I check the odds seem to open around 128% to 135% and close at around 122% for most races.

Would not surprise me if all of the above were true

Happy, I believe the TAB have quite a few contacts inside the major stables. Usually they are bang on with those Anderson shorties.