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I thought anyone with any judgment watching that race could work out McKendry drove a shocker in keeping the lead when he could have got the perfect sit behind the horse that won impressively last week. And the reason for his dumb tactics were intended to give his stablemate the trail. As to andee poutama. Do you really think it was an intelligent move to go 4 or 5 back the fence when the obvious 1/1 sit was there for the taking? Come on ,it was also dumb. And yes you are right, i do think I know the ins and outs of every driver/horse. I think every horse should be driven on its own merits,not to assist stablemates. And we all know team driving happens a lot. Its one of my pet hates. Team driving is the cause of negativity, so blame them. I never stated the winner was not the best horse,so don't know why you infer I did.

Some team driving in that race. Not just the all stars that team drive. Maurrice McKendry clearly sacrificed any chance Bare knuckle had to give its stablemate a good run,and andre poutama gave up the perfect 1/1 sit on Check in to go 5 back the fence, I guess the stable got the win with the one they expected,although the way the race was run could just have easily been its stablemate . Star galleria went very well.

Its been mentioned on the other website that the ATC is looking at an $80 million loss,up from $40 million,and is involved in costly legal battles. I wonder how accurate that is? The ATC hierarchy have already indicated that it will be selling valuable assets so it can't come as a surprise that they will looking at all options like Franklin. Looking from the outside,without full knowledge of the true extent of the financial disaster unfolding for the ATC,it appears they are doomed. It just seems to what extent. How a club can increase some stakes,and maintain others,,while under such financial pressure defies belief,and only further makes one wonder about the abilities of those making such decisions. My prediction would be for the current leadership and the majority of the current directors to be all replaced. The new leadership will them start undertaking the sell of assets to reduce debt,and with that you would think hey would have to look at the viability of maintain existing stakes. Is it not just another Fonterra, but on a smaller scale? The article refers to younger trainers not being able o afford properties to train from,well that is happening everywhere,not just Auckland. What do some of them end up doing to survive or exist within the industry?You don't have to look too far in recent history to see that.

Channelling the spirit of Jack Nicholson ??? Or have you been watching the movie "a few good men" It was a good movie. . Are you suggesting the RIU have a code name for how to silence an insubordinate like myself who asks too many questions? Did you order the "Code Red" Happy,or was it Mike gobder from the RIU??

Some of us don't have facebook, or follow the dickie stable facebook page. The Dickies are obviously aware its better to be up front about it. So why did the RIU not just state the truth. The definition of "cross contamination" is the unintentional transfer of a substance. Its spin. Its not the first time the RIU have played with words when it comes to positives.. It's a deliberate policy and one which will continue to be criticized every time the truth is hidden or twisted.

The hrnz website had a write up about CK spur winning on Friday. In it they said CK spur would get another promoted win because of a positive from another runner. The only time Ck spur has run 2nd recently was to Sertorius. That horse just happens to be trained by a trainer who late scratched 7 horses ,yes the whole team, with the RIU deliberately spinning it to say it resulted from cross contamination. Coincidence ,i think not. And if its not coincidence the RIU would have us believe that the supposed cross contamination happened a month after the original positive, yet somehow the dickie stable only cottons on to it being a possibility 4 weeks later after i'm guessiing just being informed of a positive. I think the result of my posting this thread will be for HRNZ to reprimand the writer of the article for letting the truth slip.

The privacy act? Its because they don't want the bad publicity. Its just a cover up. There is no link. I'm guessing it is the Dickie runner Sertorius. We will never know because its all a secret at the moment.. The best way is to check the horses form on the website in 3 months time when they may update the race record of the horse.

Why does the RIU want to keep everyone in the dark when it comes to a horse returning a positive. They never declare it has happened,and even go further in spinning the story so the public remains ignorant. 1 week ago the Dickies late scratched 7 runners,and the RIU told us it was due to Cross contamination. They must think we are all dunb. Was that really the case or was it related to one of their runners returning a positive from a month earlier. I don't have an issue with them being scratched,it makes sense if they had concerns about future positives. However the way the RIU and the industry deals with these matters clearly shows they don't want anyone to know. It also leads to inferences about the stables concerned being drawn ,sometimes undeserved. To me its simple,if you hide the truth,then that means you have something to hide. The RIU are enablers and are directly responsible for the innuendo that goes on about certain stables. This thread is proof of that.

Yes,did enough to win. I backed the 2nd horse (skreemr) to win bcause I thought the fav would pull up and run 2nd. I hope my punting gets better in the remaining races.

Bettor getta lover a $1.35 favourite in the next. Every start so far this horse pulls up when it looks like it may win. Will it do the same today,will o'reilly time his run,or will it change today and win.?

There's not enough information in those 4 paragraphs to make any informed judgment other than to realise that within the tab,there is not always a united front as to whether the decisions being made are in the best interests of the industry as a whole. I don't know whether this is the case here,but human nature often sees people look after their own interests at the expense of the greater good.Its just the way it works and that can only be overcome by good leadership. The quote states a tab source says turnover is down a million a month on last years figures but makes no comparison to how many meetings,what type of turnover the figures relate to,whether the source is reliable,etc ,etc. It also states last years turnover was down on the previous year. To what degree. it may be that the decline is at a similar rate to the current year. Who knows. There is no mention of the effect that the new website had in turning off so many punters which one suspects is an obvious factor. The whole thing seems just a self interested comment which because of its lack of substance tells us nothing. I have always found that information is withheld so as to create the illusion that things are not as bad as it would become apparent if full disclosure occurred. In other words due to ignorance everyone is mislead to believe those in charge are making the correct decisions. Because how can you criticize something which you have no knowledge off.

Race 2 tomorrow night. This time a mobile.Ear plugs come off the one that galloped a bit last start,crown range. The other,muscle power has no ear pugs as well. Will both gallop this time. I think a safe bet. Always adds interest when he lines them up.

The hannon looks a dead set all stars trifecta to me. They simply are better than the rest.Only way that doesn't happen is if they break at start. Spankem looks a good thing.

A bit tough newmarket. G Dunns horses haven't been in fields where you think they would win lately,or even place. I think that's the real reason for the lack of placings in recent times. Not O'reilly's driving. O'reilly drove Doctor tim like he thought it was a good chance today,but it pretty much showed no improvement and performed at the same level as its previous races in this campaign. I think the one to stick with is that better something horse for a place,but I've never seen one knock off near the finish as much as it does.

New driver Bob Butt got the chocolates today with a nice drive. Lets hope those who were on at addington stuck with the ship.

That may be the case, for some,but it would have to be on fixed odds and as brodie keeps telling us, the tab only take bigger bets from punters who tend to lose overall. And punters who bet in large amounts and lose consistently tend not to last. If you look at the tote pools it certainly is not going on there..

I agree the better Canterbury drivers attract the punters, however they turn up anyway.. That's how they make their living. Claiming having greater numbers(including Canterbury horses), increases turnover makes sense, but saying red hot favorites from Canterbury increases turnover makes no sense. Where do you get the increased turnover on Friday night from? Where's the facts and figures to back that one up?

There have been so many short priced favorites winning everywhere lately. Its not just the all stars. Last week at winton they had 5 races in a row with the biggest dividend being $2.40. Then you get the whale giving out 3 every meeting with 90% of them paying under $2. I know he has a following and is a good selector but all you have to do is look at the tote and you could come up with the same tips. I see he did tip chase Auckland last night at $8, which was a big outsider by his normal standards. We don't have much idea of how these short priced favorites are effecting turnover as the betting figures seem to be a secret,i guess because they don't want the public knowing how poor they are. I find the southland approach to their maiden stakes interesting. They seem to want to attract Canterbury raiders to take the cash off the locals and to stifle the betting. I can't work that one out myself. Personally I think its a rather stupid strategy. Like it or not,what brodie says about the betting odds of the top 5 or 6 stables and how they dominate results, is a big turn off to the average punter, and is a major factor in turnover declining in my opinion.

What's the pacer in with a chance? Classie brigade good horse but all stars would have a dozen better.

May be quicker naming who everyone thinks he wasn't. At least he's not Pound for f..... …. f….. …. pound.. Whoever he is , we should just treat him with the same courtesy we do everyone else Isn't that why this is a better site than the other one?

I don't think anyone has ever seen you in a poor light happy, quite the opposite. I have no idea who jj flash is ,but If you judge him on what he has posted on bit of a yarn, he does not make derogatory personal comments, ,just seems to have different views on some subjects and occasionally gets annoyed for being linked to comments made on another forum. I like your attitude about encouraging him to post in the future. I think the difference between bit of a yarn and the other forum is those that post on Bit of a yarn sometimes live outside the bubble of the close knit harness community, and as a result sometimes express views on issues that come from a different perspective,. We are just as passionate about the sport, but aren't influenced by having to tow the line and express opinions that are seen to agree with some of the more high profile players. I think the views expressed on here represent more the grass roots of the sport and that of the very important punters.

I have to admit I am a bit intrigued by this story, You've got a self made Chinese billionaire with a passion for horses, who has a couple of wolves for pets,being the driving force behind the purchase of a lot of nz horses who are shipped halfway round the world, it seems they end up in some racing complex and huge farm where some of them are trained to compete. Apparently part of the reason they end up in Inner Mongolia was because that government subsidized some of the setup and there is hope of providing a gambling product in the future,in a country where gambling is illegal. And most of this is happening in a part of china which has extreme weather in parts of the year. I would like to see a trackside presenter sent to Inner Mongolia to do an in depth story. I think Mick Guerin would the ideal man to send to Inner Mongolia.

Good to hear they will be well looked after. Lets hope it continues. I guess they don't invest as much as they have in their set up just to help breed pigs. As to my conspiracy theory. Well if it does all turn to custard. Inner Mongolia,where they are,is one of the northern provinces which has seen huge investment in setting up new pig farms by public companies in the last 2 or 3 years. Partly because of being so sparsely populated due to the climate. Or... Horsemeat is considered a delicacy in many countires,especially china where there is great demand.. I suppose not too different than sending them off for pet food like happens here to the unfortunate ones..

I see there are no geldings,just mares and colts and stallions. There was a lot of talk a couple of years ago about setting up racing over there. I wonder how it progressed. I wonder what actually happens to them. Does anyone even care. Hopefully they don't end up in one of those horse blood farms you read about. Apparently blood extracted from pregnant mares kept continuously pregnant, contains a hormone that is used to produce a vet drug which is used to artificially induce going into heat weaned sows so they will have faster reproduction. Apparently its a multi billion dollar industry.. Its been in the news recently about African swine flu wiping out 1/3 of chinas pig population. China produces as much pork as all other countries in the world combined.There has been a big push from the Chinese government to get there producers to breed more as a result. Apparantly that's helping boost nz beef farmers prices . Hows that for a conspiracy theory?

In other words it was poor placement. Iooked that way pre race and so it turned out. Horse went huge after slow start but running pacers from those long marks is a risk of causing damage as you pointed out. If you watch the early season high class races in Canterbury they often are slowly run,generally because connections don't want too hard a run early in a preparation.