Fred

The stupidity of statistics -the better horses have the higher weights as they proceed to better class races.

Really ?? He told me he had come for the sheing Perhaps it was the Glenlivet.........

Old stagers [like Thomas] will recall that Ellerslie addressed this problem by paying a substantial prize to the leader as they went past the post the first time. Only suitable for the 2400-3200 races of course.

Australia's leading trainer, Queensland's leading trainer, -what do these two have in common ? It's a shocking business

He even trained one for me -and answered the curly questions -she was slow!

Currie charged -are there more in the pipeline ?

Why wait till the final bend? Remember the apprentice Griffen who went around Te Rapa against the outside rail ? or K Browne at Rotorua doing similar and bolting in.

He said something like 'I was instructed to get into him with the whip' -

You could add James and Waterhouse to the TA list -but as the owners pay Te Akau stables you could say they are Te Akau trained.

Please outline the actual facts -I have never been refused a bet whether it was $10 or $1000

Obviously it depends on their own [private] arrangements.

It is just as dangerous 1 metre past the post as when 1 metre before -probably more so as the field concertinas.

Apprentice Billy Pinn

It's T A TRAINED

Retired

I have NEVER suggested that someone could not voice an opinion -I don't know why you suggest that. My reference was referring to the stones/glasshouses situation

Going from memory it used to be about 15% , NZ & OZ 4-6%

Is that the same Lee Freedman that got disqualified for a ring in ?

Plenty of N Z trainers have set up in Oz only to give up -like Autridge, Richardson, O'Sullivan , Collet, Pitman .......

SW&P is ridiculous -it should be abolished immediately. Black Type may be considered a measure of ability by some but often it is merely a reflection of a small field or atrocious track conditions. Somehow the world got by prior to the introduction of Pattern racing. It could only have an inkling of respectability if countries each had a set percentage of Black Type races. As things stand it is very hard to avoid black type in Ireland.

I think one should take into account the poor chaps mental state [which is obvious] -how stupid to suggest Colin W and Rob Mac are not achievers, Colin could buy and sell him 200 times over and Rob has selected and bought many champions. I think jealousy is his problem.

Originally owned by the club -they got into financial strife and course was sold. I think the grandstand was deemed unsafe from earthquakes [they don't have many in Paeroa, nor lemon trees] From memory Some of it had residential zoning. Did the China Horse Club buy it ?

A cattle prod is a cattle prod -not a taser. The Aussie press like to be sensational . The prods became popular in NZ 40 odd years ago, most bull farmers would have one. Some horse trainers back then would apply vicks to the horses nostrils and give it a jolt or two in training. The horse would associate the vicks with the jolt and come race day the vicks would be applied and the horse would anticipate the jolt coming and perform accordingly. That was the theory. I complained to officialdom about one trainers use of a prod and was told "i'll have a word" I guess that was an old fashioned policemans way of handling things.

If you have 600 horses you have a minimum staff of 200 --you might find all sorts of stuff in an Aussie mob that size. Perhaps not a brain ....